[OKDXA] Advice on placing coax in plastic pipe
Nelson Derks
ac5up at windstream.net
Fri Sep 5 12:10:06 EDT 2008
I had a similar quandary when I put in a C-Band sat dish in 1985... This
was an old school install involving 1.25" hardline as the RX was a
commercial jobbie that wanted to see 4.3 GHz RF on the N connector.
Visualize the south side of a typical three bedroom ranch house with the
dish approximately 20" from the wall. I put in 2.5" gray PVC conduit
from the base of the dish pad with the horizontal run approximately 30"
deep. The PVC runs up the wall and into the attic with both ends open...
The only weather sealing is on the exterior end in the form of an elbow
facing downward to keep the rain out.
There is no perfect solution for this and having lived in a two story
house I know that if you open a window on both floors there will be
airflow from downstairs to upstairs. Same concept in the PVC conduit,
goal is to dry any condensation that may form inside the pipe through
natural convection. There will be condensation whenever the ground
temperature is below the dew point of the air and that happens every
spring. The concern with water in the pipe is that if it should freeze a
lighter coax will be crushed as the water turns to ice, hence the ~ 30"
depth as the official freeze line in OK is around 24" to 18" deep. In my
case the PVC would likely burst before the hardline became damaged as
that stuff is profoundly stout.
So... Here's the trade off: Unprotected coax in the ground will be
nibbled on by gophers. Flooded direct burial or not, the line will
accumulate nibbles and water intrusion over time. Then there's the
potential for root / shovel / plow damage. Run PVC and you slow down the
gophers but gain condensation and water issues. Leave the ends open for
convection and you'll have condensation, seal it good and tight and the
water that WILL get inside won't dry out. I'm not convinced a gopher
will leave PVC alone, either... Next time you drive past a utility crew
running fiber underground slow down long enough to check out the pipe
they use. White, orange, blue, and from what I can tell it has a very
thick wall.
If it were me I'd likely go with schedule 80 PVC as that has a thicker
wall and build in 4" square electrical boxes every 60' to 80' on the
assumption you will be pulling the coax every five years or so if only
for a visual inspection. The access boxes will make that easier. Make it
easier to check for water, too. Mark the tree nearest the box with spray
paint or similar so you can find them later. An RF soak test (dummy load
/ wattmeter on one end, TX on the other) would be a good idea annually,
but be advised the pros use a high-dollar time domain reflectometer to
test coax runs because anything less is "less". As for running the line
through a wooded area... A sharpened mattock kept that way with a file
in your pocket is a wonderful tool for cutting roots and roughing in a
trench, but digging ~ 250" worth of trench with one will keep you
tanned, muscular, and bored out of your mind. One word: Tylenol. The
trade off on that is the expense of calling in a pro assuming you can
find one willing to take on the job. They make better money trenching a
new subdivision than they would a one-shot day job.
Best advice I can give is that there is no permanent solution and
whatever you build make it as easy as possible to work on later... 'Cuz
you will. ;)
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