After about 20 minutes of trying my 100 watts and a vertical got TX5C on 15 CW. Who would have thought my limited station could have broken through the pileups. It certainly is not like working them with the Force 12 at 82 feet and 1500 watts! 73, Alan Clark, N5PA 23 Meadow Lake Drive Ellisville, MS 39437-5789 E-Mail: n5pa at n5pa.com URL: http://www.n5pa.com