They were on 80 meters (3504/3515-3520) this morning until about 15 minutes after sunrise with an S-9 signal most of the time. I called them for over 30 minutes, all wasted time as they were only working JA's. :-) Coy -- Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29 Union City, OK 73090 405-483-5632