[NLRS] 10G test Cabrillo question

Zack Widup w9sz.zack at gmail.com
Wed Aug 7 15:55:20 EDT 2019


I have never sent in a Cabrillo log for the 10 GHz contest. I have been
using this logging program:

http://www.xertech.net/Projects/10G_log.html

It takes a bit of getting used to, and you have to use a version of
Microsoft Excel. I have not been successful in using it with Open Office or
Libre Office. But it specifically has a column for on and off times and
displays this in the log file it creates (a PDF file).

73, Zack W9SZ

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:14 PM John Kalenowsky <hamk9jk at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:32 PM Gary2 posed the following query:
>
> >
> > For the 10 G Cumulative, how do you handle On/Off times if the Cabrillo
> > format?
> >
> > 73, Gary WBØLJC
> >
> > Good question, Gary.
>
> Since the 10 G rules (in #2) do specifically state "Times off must be
> clearly indicated in the log."
>
> There IS a tag named "OFFTIME:" in the Cabrillo spec. (pasted below from
> http://wwrof.org/cabrillo/cabrillo-specification-v3/ ):
>
> *OFFTIME:* *begin-time* *end-time*
>
> This tag is used to indicate off-time.
>
> OFFTIME: 2002-03-22 0300 2002-03-22 0743
>
>          yyyy-mm-dd nnnn yyyy-mm-dd nnnn
>
>          -----begin----- ------end------
>
> *Note: About on-time and off-time:*
>
> QSOs in Cabrillo are logged with a granularity of one minute. The use of
> one second granularity would lead to the question “during which exact
> second did the QSO take place?”
>
> The ARRL has taken the very sensible interpretation that on-time and
> off-time also should be considered with a granularity of one minute. In
> other words, during any given minute you can either be on or off. Therefore
> 1801Z-1830Z would be a 30 minute off-time, with 1800Z being your last
> minute on before the break and 1831Z being the minute you resume operation.
>
> If you make a QSO at 1800Z, take a break, and resume operating at 1830Z,
> then you have completed a 29 minute off-time.
>
> (Apologies that it did not 'paste' as cleanly above as it appears on the
> web page for the spec.)
>
> BUT... I think that the OFFTIME: tag has fallen out of use...letting the
> log checking software verify total operating time (which, for the ARRL
> Sweepstakes is mentioned in the rule set as follows: "In
> electronically-submitted Cabrillo logs, off-times are calculated by the
> log-checking software.")
>
> As well, that may be a carryover from HF rule provisions...there is NO
> mention of minimum offtime in the 10 G rules as there is in many of the
> operating time limited HF Contests (from ARRL Sweepstakes rules again "Off
> periods may not be less than 30 minutes in length.")
>
> I suspect that WA7BNM's Web to Cabrillo form doesn't support that, so it
> would be necessary to put any offtime's in manually if you used that to
> enter your log data.
>
> Might it be time for the wording in Rule #2 for the 10 G test to be
> reconsidered? Does/has anyone ever even come CLOSE to 24 hours (let alone
> exceeding 24 hours) of operating time amongst the 36 total hours allowed by
> the two 18 hour windows, 6 a.m. local to Midnight local on the two days, in
> a given weekend?
>
> 73, JK
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