[NLRS] Newbie Tips de KA0RYT

KB0NLY kb0nly at mchsi.com
Thu Jan 22 16:27:43 EST 2015 

Number one reason I don't do any contesting is BS arguments like this.  I'm 
a casual operator, it’s a HOBBY, and if your stressing over a simple hobby 
and a contest where the evil operators are using a CALLING frequency to CALL 
other stations then I think perhaps you need to find a new hobby.  There is 
less stressful things, woodworking, knitting, I know lots of hams into RC 
airplanes and such.

Last time I was on 144.200 and the band was quiet I tossed out a call on 
there and got a reply from a local ham, we had a short but nice QSO, we 
treat it like .520 down here, get the frequency active and see if someone 
else comes along.  Another local popped on and said he was surprised to hear 
someone on and joined the conversation.  Then about 20 mins in to our 
conversation on an otherwise dead and quiet band another local "contest 
junkie" jumped on and started screaming about being on the calling frequency 
and chased everyone off.  And so we all said our 73 and went about our day, 
I listened to 144.200 in the background for most of the day and not a SINGLE 
peep was heard all day.

Use your frequencies or lose them that’s the way I look at it, and when a 
contest is going I generally flip the radio off because of all the childish 
bickering and bullying that goes on during one.  And when the contest is 
done I will get back on the air with people that will actually enjoy the use 
of those frequencies.

73,

Scott KB0NLY



-----Original Message----- 
From: Ronald Bergantzel via NLRS
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 3:10 PM
To: nlrs at mailman.qth.net
Cc: ka0ryt1 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [NLRS] Newbie Tips de KA0RYT



Well , it seems that I am getting replies from offending parties referenced 
below ..... I need to state that NO ONE has directly said to me  that there 
was a concerned issue with my operating techniques .... I am truly convinced 
that the limited few whiners and complainers / sore losers were getting a 
jealousy complex because they were missing out on QSOs due to the lack of 
not hearing the other stations I was working ( probably due to recv mixer 
overloading and desensing from urban enviroments or other equip. problems 
including station optimization  ).....
I am going to pursue other venues of VHF / UHF Microwave DXing , even though 
I did participate in 10 VHF / UHF contests this year ( only sent in logs for 
9 of them - missed the ARI - Italian EME contest DEADLINE - doh !  ) I just 
don't need the drama here after putting in the efforts ( even though I am 
extremely resource limited ! ) This is a decision that I have made and will 
stick to .... Yes , you guys were OK with several  individuals using the 
calling frequency ALOT  in previous years and many previous contests  but 
now you decide to pull this intimidation B.S and log manipulation stuff with 
me !!! Go figure - what's even worse is that most of the "knowledgeable" 
NLRS  membership stands by and lets you get away with it !!
C U Saturday , Ron KA0RYT EN35
PS - Don't complain about lack of activity when there is no one to help 
really attract DX operators  attention to look  our way on the bands !! Or 
that the above mentioned contest tactics have chased off any newbies .....
--- On Thu, 1/22/15, @gmail.com> wrote:

> From: XXXX  @gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NLRS] Newbie Tips de KA0RYT
> To: "Ronald Bergantzel" <ka0ryt1 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2015, 12:02 PM
> Ron, I think you would
> find these problems will disappear if you would
> just keep the majority of your CQ's away
> from 144.200.  I'm far enough
> away
> that it doesn't bother me a lot, but for people in the
> Metro, to
> the north and to the west, there
> are a lot of complaints that you don't
> hear about.
>
> Sorry, but someone needed to say it.
>
> 73,
> XXXX
>
> On 1/22/2015 11:37 AM, Ronald Bergantzel via
> NLRS wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> Doug !! Welcome to the contesting realm here in Minnesota !!
> Well , just 'look around" on and somewhat near the
> advertised calling freqs of 144.200 and 50.125  - I always
> keep my vfo moving and make QSOs from 144.100 to 144.250 on
> 2 meters .....
> > Now to the Good , Bad
> and the Ugly of contesting in Minnesota - : when you get
> comfortable and have an optimized station , THERE WILL BE A
> COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS that will intentionally intimidate you
> here as well as on the air ( including the contest
> spreadsheet ) . I have also  found that these individuals
> have intentionally left out of their logs the QSOs that I
> have had with them to create disparity with my own logs sent
> in ( it is called Log Checking Reports , occurring on
> multiple contests  !! ) .....
> > Doug ,
> just get on and have fun - I will do some CQing on Saturday
> afternoon on 144.205  + / -  and will look for you in
> earnest ( you will hear me from up here in Milaca - EN35
> ).
> > As I close here , I have accepted
> the desperate childish  actions of the jealous few to be a
> compliment to the efficiency of my single yagi station ( If
> the offending stations want to email a formal apology , I
> wont send my Log Checking Report info regarding unsportsman
> like conduct  into the ARRL )....
> > 73s
> !! Ron KA0RYT EN35ct
> >
> --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 1/22/15, Douglas E Marsh <douglas.marsh1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >   Subject: [NLRS] Newbie
> Tips
> >   To: NLRS at mailman.qth.net
> >   Date: Thursday, January 22,
> 2015, 10:11 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >   I'm planning my first
> stab at a VHF contest this weekend.
> >   Any tips for a little pistol
> (okay maybe squirt gun is more
> >   like it)? I'd just like
> to give a few points away and have
> >   some fun. I've got an
> Icom IF-7000 so 100W on 6m, 50W on 2m
> >   and 35W on 70cm. I've got
> a G5RV on 6m up about 30ft
> >   horizontally polarized and a
> J-pole up about 25ft vertically
> >   polarized for 2m and 70cm.
> >
> >   Your help is appreciated.
> >
> >   73 de N8TUT Doug
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