Pat and I will be around after dark 6-432. The beams are in storage except for my 4 element 2/70cm dual bander, so it'll be loops on 222 and 6. That weak one on cw will be us from EN61av. We have worked into Michagan and even all the way to EN13 with these antennas, so maybe? CU after dark. 73, Tim K0PG and Pat K9ILT