[NJARC] PC 1, Collosus 0

[Scott Roberts]

There was a lot involved on many parts. I do recall
the Polish intelligence involvement you mentioned- I
also seem to recall smuggling of non-accounted items
from the factory itself, but it has been a while since
I read my books on ENIGMA.

Scott


--- Harry Klancer <klancer2 at comcast.net> wrote:

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> As I read it, the Poles - Rejewski, Rozycki and
> Zygalski - figured out 
> the mathematics
> for breaking the Enigma, then built their own
> version of it from that 
> plus the fact that they
> had seen a simpler version of it that had been used
> for encoding 
> commercial transactions.
> Then from this version of the Enigma, they built a
> bombe to use in 
> breaking the code. These
> limited versions of Enigma and the bombe were shown
> to the British about 
> 1938 or early
> 1939. The Poles didn't have the resources needed to
> keep the work going, 
> not to mention
> the fact that the Germans invaded in September of
> '39, so these were 
> later transferred to Britain.
> 
> Lots of other stuff then happened to keep the
> Bletchly Park project going.
>                  
>                            Harry K
> 
> 
> Scott Roberts wrote:
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> > I forget whether it was the Poles(as memory says)
> or
> > the Czechs who managed to smuggle out an early
> ENIGMA
> > machine, which the British used to great report...
> > They still have the one machine they got from
> those
> > underground types. I think they also got another
> from
> > one of the Scandinavian countries, where they were
> > made for commercial use!
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > --- Ray Chase <enrpnr at erols.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
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> >> The Collosus was a late addition to the WWII code
> >> breaking effort at Blechley Park, most of the
> real
> >> work was done by electromechanical machines
> called
> >> bombes as well as by traffic analysis, the
> breaking
> >> of German lower level codes and just plain good
> >> brain work often done by recruited expert
> crossword
> >> puzzle solvers.  The bombe machine, originally
> >> developed by some Polish code breakers did the
> bulk
> >> of the work, a US version is on display at the
> >> Intelligence museum in MD (forgot the name of the
> >> base).  Notice that they refer to a Lorenz code
> >> machine, most German codes were generated on the
> >> Enigma code machine of what much has been
> written. 
> >> Maybe Lorenz made Enigma machines.  Anyway, maybe
> >> the Brits didn't have the benefit of the latest
> >> technology but how they organized teams of people
> to
> >> break the German codes is a fascinating story of
> >> WWII.
> >> BTW, Evan of the MARCH group at InfoAge
> >> (MidAtlanticRetroComputerHobbyists) has been
> doing
> >> some research on the Eniac and the two guys who
> >> created it.  While it is common knowledge that
> Eniac
> >> was used to create ballistic tables for artillery
> >> trajectories, he has just found information that
> a
> >> more important reason to get it created was
> >> initiated at Camp Evans by thier requirement to
> >> develop radiation and side lobe patterns that
> would
> >> result from truncated and distorted parabola
> >> antennas needed for their fledging radar systems.
> 
> >> This is newly discovered history (we believe) and
> >> more information will be forthcoming.
> >> Ray
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