In a message dated 8/6/2004 5:31:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, ehrlich at olypen.com writes: Al, Why do you call a fine old radio like the HQ170 junk? Garbage in garbage out. Im sure he didn't mean the radio but instead the condition of the parts and the operating condition of the radio prior to alignment. A chain is as strong as it's weakest link. Bill Overbeck