[MRCA] project luck or lack thereof

Thu Sep 3 16:29:23 EDT 2020

 They have different dispersion angles. As you say, some are more focused.I used a 30 degree type which lit a Kenwood dial pretty well.

    On Thursday, September 3, 2020, 3:57:15 PM EDT, Doran Platt <jeepp at comcast.net> wrote:  

   Forgot to mention, the common NE-51 is the bulb of choice for those neon type holders. Also, I've been buying LED panel lamps.  They are fine for indicators but poor for dial lights as they are focused.  Anyone have a good lead on "illumination" LEDs??   Jeep K3HVG 

  On 09/03/2020 1:07 PM Michael Hanz <aaf-radio-1 at aafradio.org> wrote:   

 Well, you might want to look for a lamp holder that doesn't have the resistor.  The lens for the neon has stripes in it in an attempt to get it to be brighter, I think, while the one for incandescent is a clear color red.  The neon isn't very bright, and from what you said you were trying to achieve, your first instinct to use an incandescent is probably right.  I think I may have one I can send you.  Let me check and see. 

- Mike 

  On 9/3/2020 12:45 PM, W2HX wrote: 

Dang! See? Just goes to show you sharing your failures with others can help you succeed. Both Jeep and Mike KC4TOS hit the nail on the head. Instead of just checking continuity, I measured resistance. And lo and behold, 74k ohms from solder terminal to center contact. I had no idea that that domed/vs flat indicated incandescent vs neon!

Based on this 74k measurement, does that indicate what kind of neon bulb I should look for? The bulb base is T3-1/4.  What do I look for?

Looks like I could salvage this after all!

Thanks Jeep and Mike

From: mrca-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mrca-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Doran Platt
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 5:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [MRCA] project luck or lack thereof

I have been snookered in the past with these lamp holders.   Some have built-in series resistors for neon lamps. If the lamp contact appears domed, it is probably the neon type.  If flat, probably incandescent.  Maybe?

Jeep K3HVG

On 09/02/2020 7:59 PM W2HX <w2hx at w2hx.com> wrote:

Hi friends.

Just a story about how gremlins sometimes get into the simplest of projects.  I’ve been working on an antenna switching system for my shack. The project has evolved over time. Originally it was to switch one antenna amongst two different couplers at the antenna location.  One for transmitters up to 400W (RF-382A) and the other for my 1KW transmitters (Sunair 1KW coupler).

I have since swapped out both of those couplers for one Rohde and Schwarz 1KW coupler that takes tune power from 50W through 300W (or thereabouts) so now I only need one coupler for all my radios.   And instead of switching couplers, I will switch antennas. One vertical and one horizontal long wire, both will share the coupler and the counterpoise radials.

I started really buckling down to finish this project and part of it was making a 19” control panel to enable power to the antenna site and handle the switching and other functions. I assembled the parts, most from my parts bin. One part was a nice 120V pilot lamp which I thought was a good thing to add so I can see that the power to the antenna site is on or off. I found a brand new, unused indicator lamp housing with jewel top in my parts bin that would be perfect. I probably bought this light at a hamfest 10 years ago, but who remembers.

The panel had lots of things to be mounted on it including some barrier strips for wiring etc so I figured I would get the panel created at front panel express. They provide a simple cad tool and you upload your drawing and voila, about 10 days later the panel arrives at your home all done to your specifications. Not cheap but considering the time it would take and the mistakes I was sure to make it seemed a good idea (and it was). For example, the fuse holder I was going to use needed a “D” hole which I could never make myself at home, so there you go. Among many others, I defined the hole for the pilot lamp in the cad drawing. The panel arrived as scheduled.

Well today I started wiring up the AC. And did a simple test, when I throw the AC power switch does my little pilot lamp illuminate? No! why not?! Such a simple thing! Fuse was there, switch was switching, not much to go wrong. Must have been the lamp, of course. I had to find this little bayonet lamp for 120V and low wattage that would fit this holder. Checked out the lamp, it is continuous no problem!? What’s going on here? Well I ohmed out every single wire.

The problem? The lamp holder had no continuity from one terminal to the center conductor! I couldn’t believe it! I pushed it in really tried to make contact with my DVM and nothing. Who would expect a brand new item, one that is so simple to fail!.  Arrggh. So now to find another one with the same diameter as the original so it will properly fit in my panel that I took such pains to create.

Anyway. Very long story. I hope it wasn’t too boring, but you know. You have to build up these stories to make the climax more satisfying hihi.

73 Eugene W2HX

Keep your lamps trimmed and burning

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