[MRCA] AT-1011 stuff sought

Sat May 16 16:31:37 EDT 2020

Sorry I offend so many, I only know what works for me and your results may be different. Just for fun after my last round on M&S today I switched to the vertical on the mutt and stations that I was able to copy well on the V were down in the noise or not there at all.

Have run the vertical a couple time and it has worked but not as well as the V, will say that when running on twenty or above always use the vertical and perhaps I am not doing it right because I don’t run ground radials and just the ground rod and when doing local close in stuff on 3885 will use the vertical for ground wave opps but at the end of the day if I want to have everyone hear me and hear everyone the vertical just don’t cut it on forty meters or below.

Have often been told that I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed and perhaps if I did understand how to properly deploy a vertical results may be different, after all Joe proved that this morning along with several other stations who were running verticals and inverted L antennas but a simple resonate V dose the job for me.

Maybe at the end of the day its just personal preference, something like running QRP were others may have great success with verticals and the like but for me I like running wire.

I do apologies if anyone takes offense, my thing is lets get out and get on the air. And I am no one to tell anyone else what they should be doing or using.

Ray F/KA3EKH

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As to weather an antenna “sucks”,  the question to be asked is  “sucks at what?”

Rob is pretty much spot on in his post.    I run only vertical antennas on 160 and 80M and have the DX results to show they work, and work VERY well.   And, as Rob pointed out,  you need a good ground system.

Rob made an interesting comment “When there is no skywave, verticals rule also.”.    I think this is where things get a bit murky on 40M.     You can't have horizontally polarized ground wave propagation;  you need vertical polarization.    However, around 5 MHz ground wave propagation becomes ineffective.   On 40M a low dipole (NVIS) may very well beat a verticaly polarized ground wave signal.

I lost my Center Fed Zepp (CFZ) last year and have yet to put it up.  I've tried checking into the Saturday nets on 40 and 80M but my vertical will not cut it.   Stations in the local region can't hear me but I have no trouble working VK and ZL.   Not surprising.   Verticals provide low angle emissions;  low dipoles provide high angle emissions.  I need the low dipole.

If you think you're antenna "sucks",  it may not -- you may be using it for the wrong intended purpose.

73 Mark K3MSB

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 1:43 PM Rob Flory <farmer.rob.flory at gmail.com<mailto:farmer.rob.flory at gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry Ray you didn't say what veticals suck for so not only I am going to beat this old dead horse again I am going to shoot it with a bazooka.
Dipole-Wins when significantly below MUF(NVIS) or for chip shot paths of 100 miles.

Close to MUF and distances over 1000 miles my vertical antennas kick your dipoles ass every day of the week and I have multiple national and world championships in the ARRL and CQ 160 DX contests to prove it.

When there is no skywave, verticals rule also.

Vertical performance meets expectations better when you put the effort into a good ground system.

RF

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:41 AM Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu<mailto:RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>> wrote:

Don’t care what the rest of the world says, below forty meters verticals suck. No substitutes for good long wire or V, at least that’s been my experience.  Somehow Joe WA4VAG somehow always gets out just like today running a 20 watt signal into a vertical and I had sold copy on him all morning on 7.296

But so much for talking about radio, noon is coming up and I intend to be on M&S Net with the mutt and a inverted V

Time for less talk and more radio!

Ray F/KA3EKH

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 Its a great antenna system. The poles are easy to modify .
Z

O[cid:1721e8ec77265211e931]n 5/15/2020 5:34 PM, W2HX wrote:

Hello all,

Picked up a nice AT-1011 to mount on my land rover Tithonus. I am in need of the tilt-over section,

https://www.prc68.com/I/Images/AT1101TWAw.jpg (thank you, Brooke)

I am also looking for a canvas bag for this. Please contact me with your prices.

TU es 73 Eugene W2HX

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