[MRCA] AT-1011 stuff sought

[Mark K3MSB]

As to weather an antenna “sucks”,  the question to be asked is  “sucks at
what?”

Rob is pretty much spot on in his post.    I run only vertical antennas on
160 and 80M and have the DX results to show they work, and work VERY well.
  And, as Rob pointed out,  you need a good ground system.

Rob made an interesting comment “When there is no skywave, verticals rule
also.”.    I think this is where things get a bit murky on 40M.     You
can't have horizontally polarized ground wave propagation;  you need
vertical polarization.    However, around 5 MHz ground wave propagation
becomes ineffective.   On 40M a low dipole (NVIS) may very well beat a
verticaly polarized ground wave signal.

I lost my Center Fed Zepp (CFZ) last year and have yet to put it up.  I've
tried checking into the Saturday nets on 40 and 80M but my vertical will
not cut it.   Stations in the local region can't hear me but I have no
trouble working VK and ZL.   Not surprising.   Verticals provide low angle
emissions;  low dipoles provide high angle emissions.  I need the low
dipole.

If you think you're antenna "sucks",  it may not -- you may be using it for
the wrong intended purpose.

73 Mark K3MSB

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 1:43 PM Rob Flory <farmer.rob.flory at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry Ray you didn't say what veticals suck for so not only I am going to
> beat this old dead horse again I am going to shoot it with a bazooka.
> Dipole-Wins when significantly below MUF(NVIS) or for chip shot paths of
> 100 miles.
>
> Close to MUF and distances over 1000 miles my vertical antennas kick your
> dipoles ass every day of the week and I have multiple national and world
> championships in the ARRL and CQ 160 DX contests to prove it.
>
> When there is no skywave, verticals rule also.
>
> Vertical performance meets expectations better when you put the effort
> into a good ground system.
>
> RF
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:41 AM Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Don’t care what the rest of the world says, below forty meters verticals
>> suck. No substitutes for good long wire or V, at least that’s been my
>> experience.  Somehow Joe WA4VAG somehow always gets out just like today
>> running a 20 watt signal into a vertical and I had sold copy on him all
>> morning on 7.296
>>
>> But so much for talking about radio, noon is coming up and I intend to
>> be on M&S Net with the mutt and a inverted V
>>
>> Time for less talk and more radio!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray F/KA3EKH
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:01 AM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [MRCA] AT-1011 stuff sought
>>
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>>  Its a great antenna system. The poles are easy to modify .
>> Z
>>
>>
>> On 5/15/2020 5:34 PM, W2HX wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Picked up a nice AT-1011 to mount on my land rover Tithonus. I am in need
>> of the tilt-over section,
>>
>> https://www.prc68.com/I/Images/AT1101TWAw.jpg (thank you, Brooke)
>>
>>
>>
>> I am also looking for a canvas bag for this. Please contact me with your
>> prices.
>>
>>
>>
>> TU es 73 Eugene W2HX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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