[Motorola] Was Encoder, Now MICOR and Channel Elements....

Johnjewkes at aol.com Johnjewkes at aol.com
Fri Jan 2 18:45:51 EST 2009


I guess I am in the wrong state.... Oregon "Ran out" of Surplus units in  
2005. I think our agencies simply started dumping them, rather than sending them  
to surplus/reutilization office.
Do they have a direct to public web site for bidding?? 
 
 
In a message dated 1/2/2009 1:20:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
walter.howard.jr at gmail.com writes:

Spectra's are NOT capable of narrowband.
AstroSpectra's are.
 
And 'narrowbanded' MICOR's will not be on the NTIA acceptable equipment  list.
 
John; I don't understand your comment about the MastrII's being hard to  find.
There are TONs of perfectly usable MII's coming out of commercial  service.
 
My agency just sent 20 to surplus, and we'll be sending over 100 more  from 
various state agencies in the next 3 years.
And I know we're not the only ones. 
 
WalterH


2009/1/1 K0DAN <_k0dan at comcast.net_ (mailto:k0dan at comcast.net) >


Hi John...
 
Well, I feel you pain. Didn't know MARS was madated to do the  
narrowbanding...at least (so far?) you haven't also been forced to go to  P25.
 
Well I don't know if those MICRos are gonna be any good to you for  
narrowbanding. And they sure won't take you down a P25 path. Kind of a shame  the old 
"boatcanchor" land mobile stuff is being forced out of service, but  it has 
certainly paid its dues and been around for 20-30 years. Must have  been similar 
when they shifted from 50 khz to 25 khz FM.
 
Still, there's plenty of programmable MAXTRAC, RADIUS, SPECTRA, etc.,  which 
can do narrowband. Maybe not as cheap (free) as a pile of old junked  out 
MICORs, but at least is prety easy to work on and has a decent  future life 
expectancy.
 
Good luck with your project!
 
73
k0dan
 

 
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Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009  10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Motorola] Was Encoder,  Now MICOR and Channel Elements....


Howdy Dan,
    We in MARS can use pretty much any piece of  Ham or commercial 
gear that will tune into the bands. I know what you mean about money  
pit, had a Micor working as a repeater for 10 years. About every 4  months, 
there was always some part that failed and took it down for a few  days at a 
time. 
     I can even build a Ramsey kit if need  be. Now in 2013 when MARS 
exemption 
to NTIA Federal Frequencies bandwidth reqs (See the red book of NTIA  for 
details),
we will have to have equipment that can do the 12.5 instead of 25 KHz  step 
and 
3.5 instead of 5 KHz width on VHF. 
    Some of the new Yaesu and Kenwood rigs will  do the narrow splits and 
transmission, BUT
have gone back to having to do a hardware modification to do MARS/CAP  
operations. And 
many also have added those Torx security screws to the cases so you  can't 
just 'open them up'
and they charge about $250 to do the mod for you... 
    I used to really love building repeaters from  GE MASTR II's But those 
are rare finds these days...
73 John W6HNC/AAR0MI OR
 








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