[Motorola] RE: Motorola RSS and Windows XP (long)

[Wn4i]

Thank you for all the good ideas .....and how fast to forget all the
Windows.....
You can be sure I am keeping my old 486 with DOS
Good Luck every ones

Yves   Wn4i .......30 years for Moto.





----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon" <bradd1@iaxs.net>
To: <motorola@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Motorola] RE: Motorola RSS and Windows XP (long)


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gil Stamper" <gstamper@chesapeake.net>
> To: <motorola@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:35 PM
> Subject: [Motorola] RE: Motorola RSS and Windows XP home
>
>
> > I haven't run any RSS on any version of XP.  However I know from sad
> > experience that the DOS version of the Astro RSS will not run on any
> Windows
> > OS newer that Win 98 (not on Win 98 SE either).  Win2000, and NT are no
> go's
> > also.  An earlier reply indicating that Win 98 was the last Windows OS
to
> be
> > built on DOS is correct.  After that Microsoft wrote a DOS emulator that
> > works sometimes but not always.  Even with Win98, newer (faster)
computers
> > sometimes caused trouble with the DOS based version of RSS because some
of
> > the communications timers in RSS were based on older CPU's that ran at
> > slower speeds.  The problem was timeout errors indicating that
> > communications with the radio failed.
> >
> > Windows based RSS is currently available for the Astro Spectra group of
> hand
> > helds and mobiles, and for the Saber group of hand helds.  That RSS will
> run
> > on 2000, and NT, as well as Win98 SE, so it will probably run on WinXP
> > although I haven't personally done it.  Conversation with Motorola
> engineers
> > indicate that there are no plans to convert some other RSS programs to
> > Windows version (such as for the Quantar base station/repeater.)  I
don't
> > have any knowledge about any other older radio groups.
> >
> > I have built up a long term relationship with a couple of Motorola
> Customer
> > Assurance engineers who haven't steered me wrong yet.  They have always
> > advised running the DOS based version of RSS in a pure DOS environment
> (not
> > a DOS windows under Win98, or Win95, and not the "DOS Mode" that shows
up
> > when the Win 98 shutdown menu is used, either.)  Although I haven't had
> any
> > trouble running DOS based RSS in a Win 98 box, they always advised
against
> > it.  When the systems I support migrated their programming computer to
> > Windows 98SE, I had to set up a DOS partition on the hard drive and
loaded
> > PCDOS Version 7.  Access is via a dual boot option installed with the
> > partitioning program.  In that partition I've loaded DOS RSS for Astro
> > portable and mobile, along with the DOS RSS for the Quantar repeater.
> >
> > The irony is that the Windows version of RSS won't run on Windows 95,
and
> is
> > very problematical on Windows 98.  Motorola flatly will not support the
> > Windows RSS if you tell them you are using the Win95 OS.
> >
> > As someone else said, your "mileage may vary"
> > Good luck
> >
> > Gil Stamper
> >
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>
> We had the same problems at Bearcom with windows-98 and newer RSS for the
> MCS/Professional radios. Computers would lock up and we even had a radio
go
> brain-dead from a lockup. Most of the other RSS worked ok with only minor
> hitches programming Sabers and Spectras. Maxtracs worked just fine however
> the internal use version of Maratrac would lock up right away on 98 DOS
and
> even 95/ser-1. Our shop used to be the Motorola TC service depot so we had
> all the "internal" RSS available until 1996 or so, the locker for the RSS
> read "Anyone making copies of software will be terminated immediatly!" It
> was highly guarded...
> If you are going to program make sure you are running the correct version
of
> DOS such as 6.2 or 6.22 and try to avoid using the windows based DOS even
if
> you use the F-8 command break during boot. It will only lead to headaches
or
> worse. A 386-SX/16 should be considered  a mandatory tool on your bench, a
> 486-DX is pushing it and a low end pentium is the extreme. If you find
> yourself with runtime errors or integer errors turn off the cache memory
or
> pull the onboard cache if needed. I believe most of the older RSS was
built
> up using DOS-5 on a 286 and RLL drive technology along with CGA video.
>
> I found the Professional CPS would not function on 98 as well and had a
> tough time under 2000. It would load the windows memory manager up and not
> release after you closed down the program. The only way to get around it
was
> the taskmanager and manually kill the program. If you use the Professional
> Radio CPS make sure you have alot of physical memory and all your other
> programs are closed. Systray based programs should also be killed as well
> and Antivirus programs should be suspended. Had Norton take out a 160
> channel multiple PL list.
>
> Good luck
>
> KA�SQO
>
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