[Milsurplus] Heterodyne Frequency Meters

Wed Apr 21 23:13:21 EDT 2021

Okay, we have 1 "For" and 1 "Against"! Any more votes? :)
(good points, BTW Howie) :)

At 08:01 PM 4/21/2021, howard holden wrote:
>I take a slightly different view. The answer to 
>your question, from my perspective Sam, is YES. 
>Both. The BC-221 and LM series were used to set 
>a wide variety of equipment (think Command sets, 
>GO-9,s TBWs, and so much more) on frequency. 
>Without them, or something similar with accurate 
>calibration, that equipment would have been all 
>but useless in the environment.  At the same 
>time they could also serve as a transmitter 
>monitor, a signal source for equipment repair or 
>alignment, etc. I believe in this context the 
>dictionary definitions become a bit hazy.
>
>73, Howie WB2AWQ (I use both LMs and BC-221s 
>from time to time exactly as intended.)
>
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>
>From: <mailto:gfsmith at cox.net>Gordon Smith
>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:47 PM
>To: <mailto:sestokes at sonic.net>Sam Stokes; 
><mailto:Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Heterodyne Frequency Meters
>
>
>
>Hi Sam,
>At the risk of being word nerdy (?), I would 
>submit that a heterodyne frequency meter is a 
>piece of test equipment. A component is, per 
>Merriam Webster, 
>"<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Felement&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1e229cca6d594f33d9ec08d9053903b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637546564694637405%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MdAEERF4Xe8EahfpKY%2FbEw8U0%2BVqdmU6g9Vm9G%2FYJwM%3D&reserved=0> 
>element, 
><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Fcomponent&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1e229cca6d594f33d9ec08d9053903b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637546564694637405%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hFfnsogtmTlC%2FXv%2BQ%2B9CV3YcqR37nFsiLwcQJm2F2jE%3D&reserved=0>component, 
><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Fconstituent&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1e229cca6d594f33d9ec08d9053903b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637546564694647362%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kx1K4lUOmaUMzEqcCST7B0qhbo5MOZ5Gyvpn5ZY%2BtYM%3D&reserved=0>constituent, 
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>mean one of the parts of a compound or complex 
>whole". This means that a component is part of 
>an assembly and if you remove it the thing it is 
>part of become "non whole". A heterodyne 
>frequency meters is for testing and once that 
>testing is completed can be removed from the 
>radio it is being used to test while the radio is still "whole".
>
>And technically, I do not think they can be 
>categorized as "Used With but Not Part Of". A 
>radio does not "use" the heterodyne frequency 
>meter for any of it's functions, it is an 
>external frequency source used for the 
>calibration of the radio. The radio works just 
>fine without it. A Panadapter would be an 
>example of "used with but not part of".
>
>Just my 2c
>
>73, Gordon KJ6IKT
>
>At 06:17 PM 4/21/2021, Sam Stokes wrote:
>
>For indexing purposes, are heterodyne frequency 
>metersÂ  LM-(Â  ) and an SCR-221- (Â  ) pieces 
>of test equipment or a component? Could they be 
>categorized as Used With but Not Part Of? -- Sam 
>Stokes, Publisher, KG6WYZ 3rd Edition of Rings 
>of Supersonic Steel The Last Missile Site Fort 
>Baker Through the Years 
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