[Milsurplus] [BoatAnchors] A Cure for "The Silence of the Bands"

Bruce Gentry ka2ivy at verizon.net
Tue Sep 19 12:02:06 EDT 2017


Around here, even if you do join or offer support it makes no 
difference. It's total self destruction.

      Bruce Gentry. KA2IVY

On 9/19/17 11:43 AM, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
> I've experienced this on some repeaters. Join the club and pay or stay off.
>
>
> Peter
>
>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Bruce Gentry <ka2ivy at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> In this area, there are 2 meter repeaters on almost every spot. Most of them are silent 23 1/2 hours a day.   However, if you dare use one, you are likely to bullied off.  The ham community made many horrific mistakes in how they treated newcomers and interested people in the 1960s and 70s. Techie nerds tend to be very focused, and  have long memories. The disparaged techies devoted their efforts elsewhere, such as to the Internet and cellphone system, and are now vying for ham bandwidth.
>>
>>      Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
>>
>>> On 9/19/17 11:06 AM, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
>>> I'd rather see the bands being used and busy than get sold off due to disuse.
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:01 AM, George Babits <gbabits at custertel.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you really stop to think about, "social media" is the real drain of the airwaves.  Can you imagine the amount of QRM that would be on the bands if all the "information exchange" of the various bulliten boards like this one was being carried out on the air?  Wouldn't that be great!!
>>>>
>>>> And it isn't just the "milinials"  (whoever that is) who are focused on exercizing their thumbe with the magic wrist radios.  I see a lot of people my own age (war baby) doing the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> George
>>>> W7HDL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL ST ANGELO" <mstangelo at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "David Stinson" <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>; <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>; <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:30 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [BoatAnchors] A Cure for "The Silence of the Bands"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It also depend on your definition of building.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I started in the late 60's Amateur Radio was a from of Social media and wireless communications. Electronics was expensive and building or modifying surplus was a way of getting on the air. Experimenting with hardware was accessible; experimenting with software was expensive and had to be done on a mainframe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today there are alternate forms of social media to discuss our hobbies, interests and just plain b-s'ing. I bet most of the members of this group spend most of their time on the Internet instead of the radio. The art of getting on the air, listening and calling has died off; what we are left with are contests, DXing and reenactment. We should just get on and operate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Electronics is cheap these days but building on a component level is challenging. However, there are many modules and kits available today to satisfy the hardware experimenter like me. This is really the golden age of kit building with the proliferation of kits from firms like QRP Labs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the interest among Millennials, and for good reason, is building with software. That is the future. We should encourage experimentation with Software Defined radios and newer digital modes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice this month's issue of QST has and article on WSJT-X by W1JT and others plus a propagation article on JT65, JT9 and FT8 by K9LA. This is a good sign. I hope they devote an issue to SDR. We complain about these modes but they are advancing the art of communication for those with small lots and low power.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike N2MS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On September 19, 2017 at 9:06 AM David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Arden Allen [mailto:gumbear at pacbell.net]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BoatAnchors] A Cure for "The Silence of the Bands"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only practical pitch for fledgling members is
>>>>>> the encouragement to build your own...
>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>
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