[Milsurplus] [MRCA] G and G Radio Sales NYC

Peter Gottlieb kb2vtl at gmail.com
Thu Sep 7 00:11:20 EDT 2017


Their site shows a lot of parts and expensive vacuum tubes.  Do they have and 
radios or other equipment?

Peter
kb2vtl


On 9/6/2017 2:22 PM, Michael Clarson wrote:
> Just a note -- Leeds Radio is still around. I was at their last location a few 
> years ago (in Williamsburg) and I can't believe he moved everything to the 
> Bronx!. Looks like he is out of MPF-102s! The person running things used to 
> work at Leeds for the original owner. --Mike, WV2ZOW
>
> http://www.leedsradio.com/
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, MICHAEL ST ANGELO <mstangelo at comcast.net 
> <mailto:mstangelo at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks to all for the G and G radio stories. I fondly remember visiting
>     them every time I took a pilgrimage into NYC to buy electronics.
>
>
>     My first visit was in the late 1960's. I wanted to experiment with VHF/UHF
>     radio and the BC-645 seemed like a good place to start.
>
>
>     I saw the set on G and G and two things turned me off. First - I was on a
>     tight budget. being in high school so I would also have to buy the
>     accessory cables. Second - seeing it in person I realized it was quite dated.
>
>
>     At that time QST had a cover article abut using the Motorola MPF-102 fets
>     in VHF converters. Another store that I frequented on my pilgrimage, Leeds
>     Radio, had MPF-102 fets on sale for fifty cents so I picked up a couple
>     and went down the semiconductor route.
>
>     The fet leads were gold plated; I still have them.
>
>
>     My last G and G visit was in the early 1980's. I guess it was on Warren
>     Street and the Lafayette Radio was replaced by a huge store selling all
>     types of magnetic tapes. I went to the second floor and meet a Ham from
>     Brooklyn who worked there. We started chatting and he told me he installed
>     the transmitters on Abe Nathan's Voice of Peace ship; two Collins 25,000
>     watt transmitters with a Combinier. Could that have been Leon Chall?
>
>
>     Keep the stories coming.
>
>
>     73 Mike N2MS
>
>
>>     On September 3, 2017 at 6:55 PM comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:kg2bz at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hue and folks
>>     My dad worked part time at Gand G radio  in the 70s . Sometimes I
>>     accompanied him and my brother on a Saturday. the owner, Murray Baum,
>>     grew up in England as a boy then came over to the US and was a
>>     telegrapher. He was in his 70s at the time. He knew alot of people in the
>>     electronics business including the owners of Lafayette radio.  He never
>>     really adapted to the surplus markets like Bill Slep (huh!), Columbia
>>     Electronics or Space Electronics.  He preferred to live in his WW2 inventory.
>>
>>      My dad helped move inventory between Leonard st warehouse and Warren st
>>     store/office/headquarters. first floor was Lafayette radio. Second floor
>>     was his offices and showroom in one room on the second floor there was a
>>     display of the most everything he sold. third-floor was the shipping and
>>     receiving department where my dad did most of his work. On a Saturday me
>>     and my brother had our jobs such as testing and polishing tubes for
>>     repackaging
>>     4th floor was more storage and 5th floor was more tubes
>>
>>     G and G  had hundreds of new RAY receivers and BC – 645s. I think I sold
>>     my last one at Gilbert a few years ago to bernie bought it
>>     not sure what the RAY did.  the story with the 645s was they were never
>>     fielded in ww2 due to incompatibility with existing IFF sets
>>
>>     I believe he bought the bc312 diversity sets - there is one on qth.com
>>     <http://qth.com> now - from another surplus guy. He had a part time ham
>>     tech, Leon Chall, from Brooklyn , working on them.
>>      Murray wanted to pay Leon on the books, he said no way and threatened to
>>     quit. Murray gave him cash for his services
>>
>>      When he was running out of stock he carried Fair radio items in his
>>     catalog but they would always be shipped from Fair radio and Murray would
>>     get a commission
>>
>>     I have been working on a story about our G and G adventures on and off .
>>     When I finish I will share with everyone
>>
>>     Jeff
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>     On Sep 1, 2017, at 8:27 PM, comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:kg2bz at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>     ray and folks .
>>>
>>>     i can remember as a kid working with my dad at g and g radio in new york
>>>     city. he had hundreds of brand new crated bc223s. my dad got 2, one was
>>>     ruined from hurricane sandy, the other my mom found when cleaning out
>>>     the attic last year. the other half of the scr245, the bc312, my dad got
>>>     working for me when i was 12 or 13.  with a 15 ft piece of wire in the
>>>     basement I would listen to the top end of the BCB, 160m was dead due to
>>>     loran, but i listened to uscg on 2670 and 75m am - wa1hyellr etc
>>>
>>>     i also found the dynamotor too!
>>>
>>>     the scr245 may have been in use in north africa in m3 lee and m4
>>>     shermans but by the time of sicily the scr508 was firmly in use
>>>
>>>     as to the scr506, that was used in the armored battalion commanders and
>>>     xo's tanks for the regimental command net. also in those tanks was the
>>>     508. it was also used in m8 and m20 armored cars for the recon units.
>>>     tank companies commanders and xos had the 508 which had 2 bc603
>>>     receivers, 1 tuned to the battalion net the other in the company net.
>>>     early in the war only 2 out 4 tanks in a  tank platoon had the scr528
>>>     603/604 combo, the other 2 tanks had the scr538 with a 603, 605
>>>     interphone amp and no xmitter
>>>
>>>
>>>     jeff
>>>
>>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>     On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu
>>>     <mailto:RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Seeing that a BC-223 transmitter was offered up got me thinking about
>>>>     the SCR-245 radio system. That’s the combination of the BC-223
>>>>     transmitter and the BC-312 receiver to provide a low powered HF AM
>>>>     radio system intended for tank, armored vehicle and command car use
>>>>     that was replaced by the SCR-508 being a superior system for mobile
>>>>     operation being FM and VHF. The SCR-508 was introduced around mid-41
>>>>     with the HF AM SCR-245 coming out in 37 so there was a period of time
>>>>     before VHF FM was adopted for vehicle operation but my question would
>>>>     be was the SCR-245 ever fielded in combat? Was thinking that maybe it
>>>>     was used in North Africa if it were used at all or was the SCR-508 in
>>>>     use by that time? If it was in use in North Africa were all the
>>>>     vehicles with that installation overhauled to the newer radios before
>>>>     use in Europe? What about equipment used in Sicily and Italy? Being
>>>>     that was in between the two operations.
>>>>
>>>>     The SCR-506 with its massive BC-653 transmitter and the BC-652 receiver
>>>>     also fits into this roll somehow but always thought that was more an
>>>>     artillery or more a command and control type radio being high power and
>>>>     not intended in the small tactical role as the SCR-245 also I have
>>>>     noticed that although I have only seen maybe two or three BC-223
>>>>     transmitters before the ones I have seen appear to have never been
>>>>     issued and perhaps that says something to if they were ever used or not.
>>>>
>>>>     The relevance of all this is that in the last several years I have
>>>>     noticed that I had moved away from the concept of having just one part
>>>>     of a communications system and look at things more as a complete
>>>>     package. Where it was once something to have just a receiver or maybe a
>>>>     transceiver that I use on the Ham bands now looking at having complete
>>>>     systems and operations along the lines of original intentions, at least
>>>>     without the shooting part. In the last couple years the M151 with its
>>>>     VRC-12 and GRC-106 systems has been a lot of fun for use around the
>>>>     house or at shows but have been thinking along the lines of what’s next
>>>>     and perhaps a field package of the SCR-245 in a big wooden transit case
>>>>     may have possibilities? Who knows, that may have to lead to a WW2 vehicle?
>>>>
>>>>     Ray F/KA3EKH
>>>>
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