[Milsurplus] [MRCA] G and G Radio Sales NYC

Wed Sep 6 21:13:21 EDT 2017

mike.  
thats got to be him.  when i was there he was working on apr4s , converting bc603s to low band among other things. you probably met him on the third floor that was where the workbench was. 

the second floor had an glassed in office when you first came in thats where the incoming mail orders came in.  the next room was the showroom where almost every piece of equipment was set on boxes on the floor to display. then there were 3 more offices , one for his part time accountant and one for his secretary and a really nice furnished office that he hardly used . 

there was a very steep stairwell to go to the second floor which had inventory, a workbench, and another room with more inventory and  where the packages were prepared and boxed.

from the ground floor to the second floor in that stairwell was a very steep conveyor belt.   we would move boxes inventory from leonard st to warren street and load up the conveyor belt. every once in a while a top heavy box would roll down the conveyor belt taking whatever was downstream back to the sidewalk . murray would have a fit. it was funny to watch. 

jeff

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> On Sep 6, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just a note -- Leeds Radio is still around. I was at their last location a few years ago (in Williamsburg) and I can't believe he moved everything to the Bronx!. Looks like he is out of MPF-102s! The person running things used to work at Leeds for the original owner. --Mike, WV2ZOW
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> http://www.leedsradio.com/ 
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>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, MICHAEL ST ANGELO <mstangelo at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Thanks to all for the G and G radio stories. I fondly remember visiting them every time I took a pilgrimage into NYC to buy electronics.
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>> My first visit was in the late 1960's. I wanted to experiment with VHF/UHF radio and the BC-645 seemed like a good place to start. 
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>> I saw the set on G and G and two things turned me off. First - I was on a tight budget. being in high school so I would also have to buy the accessory cables. Second - seeing it in person I realized it was quite dated.
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>> At that time QST had a cover article abut using the Motorola MPF-102 fets in VHF converters. Another store that I frequented on my pilgrimage, Leeds Radio, had MPF-102 fets on sale for fifty cents so I picked up a couple and went down the semiconductor route.
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>> The fet leads were gold plated; I still have them.
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>> My last G and G visit was in the early 1980's. I guess it was on Warren Street and the Lafayette Radio was replaced by a huge store selling all types of magnetic tapes. I went to the second floor and meet a Ham from Brooklyn who worked there. We started chatting and he told me he installed the transmitters on Abe Nathan's Voice of Peace ship; two Collins 25,000 watt transmitters with a Combinier. Could that have been Leon Chall?
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>> Keep the stories coming.
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>> 73 Mike N2MS
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>>> On September 3, 2017 at 6:55 PM comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Hue and folks
>>> My dad worked part time at Gand G radio  in the 70s . Sometimes I accompanied him and my brother on a Saturday. the owner, Murray Baum, grew up in England as a boy then came over to the US and was a telegrapher. He was in his 70s at the time. He knew alot of people in the electronics business including the owners of Lafayette radio.  He never really adapted to the surplus markets like Bill Slep (huh!), Columbia Electronics or Space Electronics.  He preferred to live in his WW2 inventory.
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>>>  My dad helped move inventory between Leonard st warehouse and Warren st store/office/headquarters. first floor was Lafayette radio. Second floor was his offices and showroom in one room on the second floor there was a display of the most everything he sold. third-floor was the shipping and receiving department where my dad did most of his work. On a Saturday me and my brother had our jobs such as testing and polishing tubes for repackaging
>>> 4th floor was more storage and 5th floor was more tubes
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>>> G and G  had hundreds of new RAY receivers and BC – 645s. I think I sold my last one at Gilbert a few years ago to bernie bought it
>>> not sure what the RAY did.  the story with the 645s was they were never fielded in ww2 due to incompatibility with existing IFF sets
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>>> I believe he bought the bc312 diversity sets - there is one on qth.com now - from another surplus guy. He had a part time ham tech, Leon Chall, from Brooklyn , working on them.
>>>  Murray wanted to pay Leon on the books, he said no way and threatened to quit. Murray gave him cash for his services
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>>>  When he was running out of stock he carried Fair radio items in his catalog but they would always be shipped from Fair radio and Murray would get a commission
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>>> I have been working on a story about our G and G adventures on and off . When I finish I will share with everyone
>>> 
>>> Jeff
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>>>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 8:27 PM, comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>> ray and folks . 
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>>>> i can remember as a kid working with my dad at g and g radio in new york city. he had hundreds of brand new crated bc223s. my dad got 2, one was ruined from hurricane sandy, the other my mom found when cleaning out the attic last year. the other half of the scr245, the bc312, my dad got working for me when i was 12 or 13.  with a 15 ft piece of wire in the basement I would listen to the top end of the BCB, 160m was dead due to loran, but i listened to uscg on 2670 and 75m am - wa1hyellr etc
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>>>> i also found the dynamotor too!
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>>>> the scr245 may have been in use in north africa in m3 lee and m4 shermans but by the time of sicily the scr508 was firmly in use
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>>>> as to the scr506, that was used in the armored battalion commanders and xo's tanks for the regimental command net. also in those tanks was the 508. it was also used in m8 and m20 armored cars for the recon units. tank companies commanders and xos had the 508 which had 2 bc603 receivers, 1 tuned to the battalion net the other in the company net. early in the war only 2 out 4 tanks in a  tank platoon had the scr528 603/604 combo, the other 2 tanks had the scr538 with a 603, 605 interphone amp and no xmitter
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>>>> jeff
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>>>>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu> wrote:
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>>>>> Seeing that a BC-223 transmitter was offered up got me thinking about the SCR-245 radio system. That’s the combination of the BC-223 transmitter and the BC-312 receiver to provide a low powered HF AM radio system intended for tank, armored vehicle and command car use that was replaced by the SCR-508 being a superior system for mobile operation being FM and VHF. The SCR-508 was introduced around mid-41 with the HF AM SCR-245 coming out in 37 so there was a period of time before VHF FM was adopted for vehicle operation but my question would be was the SCR-245 ever fielded in combat? Was thinking that maybe it was used in North Africa if it were used at all or was the SCR-508 in use by that time? If it was in use in North Africa were all the vehicles with that installation overhauled to the newer radios before use in Europe? What about equipment used in Sicily and Italy? Being that was in between the two operations.
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>>>>> The SCR-506 with its massive BC-653 transmitter and the BC-652 receiver also fits into this roll somehow but always thought that was more an artillery or more a command and control type radio being high power and not intended in the small tactical role as the SCR-245 also I have noticed that although I have only seen maybe two or three BC-223 transmitters before the ones I have seen appear to have never been issued and perhaps that says something to if they were ever used or not.
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>>>>> The relevance of all this is that in the last several years I have noticed that I had moved away from the concept of having just one part of a communications system and look at things more as a complete package. Where it was once something to have just a receiver or maybe a transceiver that I use on the Ham bands now looking at having complete systems and operations along the lines of original intentions, at least without the shooting part. In the last couple years the M151 with its VRC-12 and GRC-106 systems has been a lot of fun for use around the house or at shows but have been thinking along the lines of what’s next and perhaps a field package of the SCR-245 in a big wooden transit case may have possibilities? Who knows, that may have to lead to a WW2 vehicle?
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>>>>> Ray F/KA3EKH
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