[Milsurplus] [MRCA] G and G Radio Sales NYC

Wed Sep 6 14:22:59 EDT 2017

Just a note -- Leeds Radio is still around. I was at their last location a
few years ago (in Williamsburg) and I can't believe he moved everything to
the Bronx!. Looks like he is out of MPF-102s! The person running things
used to work at Leeds for the original owner. --Mike, WV2ZOW

http://www.leedsradio.com/

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, MICHAEL ST ANGELO <mstangelo at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Thanks to all for the G and G radio stories. I fondly remember visiting
> them every time I took a pilgrimage into NYC to buy electronics.
>
>
> My first visit was in the late 1960's. I wanted to experiment with VHF/UHF
> radio and the BC-645 seemed like a good place to start.
>
>
> I saw the set on G and G and two things turned me off. First - I was on a
> tight budget. being in high school so I would also have to buy the
> accessory cables. Second - seeing it in person I realized it was quite
> dated.
>
>
> At that time QST had a cover article abut using the Motorola MPF-102 fets
> in VHF converters. Another store that I frequented on my pilgrimage, Leeds
> Radio, had MPF-102 fets on sale for fifty cents so I picked up a couple and
> went down the semiconductor route.
>
> The fet leads were gold plated; I still have them.
>
>
> My last G and G visit was in the early 1980's. I guess it was on Warren
> Street and the Lafayette Radio was replaced by a huge store selling all
> types of magnetic tapes. I went to the second floor and meet a Ham from
> Brooklyn who worked there. We started chatting and he told me he installed
> the transmitters on Abe Nathan's Voice of Peace ship; two Collins 25,000
> watt transmitters with a Combinier. Could that have been Leon Chall?
>
>
> Keep the stories coming.
>
>
> 73 Mike N2MS
>
>
>
> On September 3, 2017 at 6:55 PM comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hue and folks
> My dad worked part time at Gand G radio  in the 70s . Sometimes I
> accompanied him and my brother on a Saturday. the owner, Murray Baum, grew
> up in England as a boy then came over to the US and was a telegrapher. He
> was in his 70s at the time. He knew alot of people in the electronics
> business including the owners of Lafayette radio.  He never really adapted
> to the surplus markets like Bill Slep (huh!), Columbia Electronics or Space
> Electronics.  He preferred to live in his WW2 inventory.
>
>  My dad helped move inventory between Leonard st warehouse and Warren st
> store/office/headquarters. first floor was Lafayette radio. Second floor
> was his offices and showroom in one room on the second floor there was a
> display of the most everything he sold. third-floor was the shipping and
> receiving department where my dad did most of his work. On a Saturday me
> and my brother had our jobs such as testing and polishing tubes for
> repackaging
> 4th floor was more storage and 5th floor was more tubes
>
> G and G  had hundreds of new RAY receivers and BC – 645s. I think I sold
> my last one at Gilbert a few years ago to bernie bought it
> not sure what the RAY did.  the story with the 645s was they were never
> fielded in ww2 due to incompatibility with existing IFF sets
>
> I believe he bought the bc312 diversity sets - there is one on qth.com
> now - from another surplus guy. He had a part time ham tech, Leon Chall,
> from Brooklyn , working on them.
>  Murray wanted to pay Leon on the books, he said no way and threatened to
> quit. Murray gave him cash for his services
>
>  When he was running out of stock he carried Fair radio items in his
> catalog but they would always be shipped from Fair radio and Murray would
> get a commission
>
> I have been working on a story about our G and G adventures on and off .
> When I finish I will share with everyone
>
> Jeff
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 8:27 PM, comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ray and folks .
>
> i can remember as a kid working with my dad at g and g radio in new york
> city. he had hundreds of brand new crated bc223s. my dad got 2, one was
> ruined from hurricane sandy, the other my mom found when cleaning out the
> attic last year. the other half of the scr245, the bc312, my dad got
> working for me when i was 12 or 13.  with a 15 ft piece of wire in the
> basement I would listen to the top end of the BCB, 160m was dead due to
> loran, but i listened to uscg on 2670 and 75m am - wa1hyellr etc
>
> i also found the dynamotor too!
>
> the scr245 may have been in use in north africa in m3 lee and m4 shermans
> but by the time of sicily the scr508 was firmly in use
>
> as to the scr506, that was used in the armored battalion commanders and
> xo's tanks for the regimental command net. also in those tanks was the 508.
> it was also used in m8 and m20 armored cars for the recon units. tank
> companies commanders and xos had the 508 which had 2 bc603 receivers, 1
> tuned to the battalion net the other in the company net. early in the war
> only 2 out 4 tanks in a  tank platoon had the scr528 603/604 combo, the
> other 2 tanks had the scr538 with a 603, 605 interphone amp and no xmitter
>
>
> jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu> wrote:
>
> Seeing that a BC-223 transmitter was offered up got me thinking about the
> SCR-245 radio system. That’s the combination of the BC-223 transmitter and
> the BC-312 receiver to provide a low powered HF AM radio system intended
> for tank, armored vehicle and command car use that was replaced by the
> SCR-508 being a superior system for mobile operation being FM and VHF. The
> SCR-508 was introduced around mid-41 with the HF AM SCR-245 coming out in
> 37 so there was a period of time before VHF FM was adopted for vehicle
> operation but my question would be was the SCR-245 ever fielded in combat?
> Was thinking that maybe it was used in North Africa if it were used at all
> or was the SCR-508 in use by that time? If it was in use in North Africa
> were all the vehicles with that installation overhauled to the newer radios
> before use in Europe? What about equipment used in Sicily and Italy? Being
> that was in between the two operations.
>
> The SCR-506 with its massive BC-653 transmitter and the BC-652 receiver
> also fits into this roll somehow but always thought that was more an
> artillery or more a command and control type radio being high power and not
> intended in the small tactical role as the SCR-245 also I have noticed that
> although I have only seen maybe two or three BC-223 transmitters before the
> ones I have seen appear to have never been issued and perhaps that says
> something to if they were ever used or not.
>
> The relevance of all this is that in the last several years I have noticed
> that I had moved away from the concept of having just one part of a
> communications system and look at things more as a complete package. Where
> it was once something to have just a receiver or maybe a transceiver that I
> use on the Ham bands now looking at having complete systems and operations
> along the lines of original intentions, at least without the shooting part.
> In the last couple years the M151 with its VRC-12 and GRC-106 systems has
> been a lot of fun for use around the house or at shows but have been
> thinking along the lines of what’s next and perhaps a field package of the
> SCR-245 in a big wooden transit case may have possibilities? Who knows,
> that may have to lead to a WW2 vehicle?
>
>
>
> Ray F/KA3EKH
>
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