[Milsurplus] The end of milsurplus on eBay?
Ray Fantini
RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu
Mon Dec 7 09:40:53 EST 2015
Think the words “Norden Bomb Sight” is what got you noticed. EBay saw that and killed all of your listings. At this time there are over a thousand items listed under the word search “Military Radios” , Military vehicles has its own category on EBay Motors and a simple word search of “ammo can” brings back over three thousand results and what surprises me is that a search for “K Bar” brought back over 192 thousand results!
Word search for AR-15 comes back with over sixty thousand items but the same search with the word “Military” added results in just six thousand matches and with the exception of training manuals, cleaning kits and ammo pouches none of the items relate to the gun itself. With the millions of items for sale on EBay would assume they use a filter that looks for combinations of key words or phrases but somehow don’t see them waging a war agents all military surplus, an if they are looks like there doing a piss poor job of it.
Ray F
-----Original Message-----
From: Milsurplus [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via Milsurplus
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:45 PM
To: jphutch60bj at gmail.com; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] The end of milsurplus on eBay?
unbelievable! Truly! drop John McCain a letter...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/6/2015 8:39:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jphutch60bj at gmail.com writes:
Jack -
First its the Millennial's and their thought process I.M.O. They see, "
military ordnance", no perspective.
I would contact Ebay - and in a nice way ask who at EBay made this decision ?
"... contact our policy experts.
http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cusr?query=508&domain=email1384 The are not historical Genius over there.
Do what they said to do just make a stink:
Contact the JEAP you can email them at SMBLOGCOMJEAP at usmc.mil ask questions about items why these items were asked to be removed at the request of the DoD. These are after all vintage surplus Military items.
Contact DoD website is http://www.defenselink.mil/ "Because the sale of many military items is either prohibited or highly regulated by the government .... ", who is responsible for putting these particular vintage Military items on a watch list!? What list and who is the author of the list?
I would CC your Congressman, and Senator on all three communications just to make them happy. Let them do all the work Just start asking questions.
Hutch
On 12/6/2015 8:05 PM, Jack Sullivan via Milsurplus wrote:
> I buy & sell surplus military electronics, tech manuals & related
stuff in my store on eBay. I was surprised to receive the following email from eBay the other day:
> | |
> Your listing has been removed: Firearms, Weapons, and Knives
> | |
> | |
>
>
>
> Hello ctenochasma,
> After reviewing your eBay account, it looks like you haven’t
> followed
our Firearms, Weapons, and Knives policy. We understand that you may not have been aware of this policy or that this may have been an oversight, so we're including some policy information to help you with your future listings. We also had to take the following actions:
> - Listings that didn't follow eBay guidelines have been removed. A
list of removed items is available further down in this email.
> - We have credited all associated fees except for the final value
> fee
for your listing(s).
>
> Due to laws restricting the sale of explosives, military ordnance
> and
grenades, most of these items aren’t allowed on eBay.
>
> Military ordnance includes items such as weapons, ammunition,
equipment, vehicles, and their related parts. This restriction includes items that are considered demilitarized, de-milled, or unserviceable. This is because we can't confirm whether the items have been changed in ways that would make them safe and legal to sell and transport.
>
> Listings for any explosives or grenades are not allowed, including:
> - Dummy grenades
> - Grenade launchers or grenade-launcher attachments
> - Inert grenades (such as curios, display items, memorabilia, or
relics)
> - Metal grenades
> - Military practice grenades
> - Mines
> - Rifle grenades
>
> To learn more about our weapons policy and guidelines for
> explosives,
grenades, and military ordnance, go to:
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/firearms-weapons-knives.html
>
> At the request of the United States Department of Defense, your
manuals were removed. Questions about this action should be directed to the Joint Equipment Assessment Program (JEAP) within the DoD, as we have no additional information. To contact the JEAP you can email them at SMBLOGCOMJEAP at usmc.mil with any questions about items removed at the request of the DoD. The DoD website is http://www.defenselink.mil/ Because the sale of many military items is either prohibited or highly regulated by the government, there are certain items that can't be listed on eBay. This policy is in place to make sure everyone is informed about the restrictions before listing any military items on our site. As many of these items remain the property of the United States Military or similar agencies, we do not allow them to be sold on eBay.
>
> Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with this information
> and
be sure that your current and future listings follow these guidelines. If they don’t, they'll be removed and we may, at our sole discretion, decide not to refund your fees. It could also result in additional actions, including loss of buying and selling privileges on eBay.
>
> If you have any more questions, contact our policy experts.
http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/cusr?query=508&domain=email1384
>
> Here are the listings that were removed:
> 251033093126 - THE NORDEN BOMB SIGHT - MAINTENANCE, CALIBRATION
> 1943
REVISED EDITION ON CD-ROM!
> 251405333011 - US NAVY HANDBOOK OF OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS FOR RADAR
TRANSPONDOR BEACON AN/APN-7
> 251496144436 - TRAINING CIRCULAR 24-24 SIGNAL DATA: COMMUNICATIONS &
ELECTRONICS EQUIPMENT CD!!
> 251552212978 - COMPLETE SET OF TECHNICAL MANUALS FOR UHF-AM MAN-PACK
RADIO SET AN/PRC-41
> 251570626456 - TM 11-5820-498-12 OP'S & ORG MAINTENANCE RADIO SETS
AN/VRC-53, VRC-64, GRC-125++
> 251570719622 - AN/PRC-74 MANPACK TACTICAL QRP CW/SSB HF TRANSCEIVER
MANUALS ON CD-ROM!!!
> 360608196055 - U.S. AIRBORNE RADAR SETS - 1 NOVEMBER 1944 (CD-ROM)
> 360910539004 - RADIO SET AN/PRC-41 OPERATOR/ ORGANIZATIONAL
> MAINTENANCE
MANUAL TM11-5820-510-12
> 360937786539 - FIRST TIME ON CD: AN/GRA-71 CODER-BURST TRANSMISSION
GROUP TECH MANUALS!
> Thanks,
> Please note that all of the equipment in these listings is hopelessly
obsolete & represents no threat to U.S. National Security.
> The U.S. Marine Corps & DoD have hired an engineering firm for
> millions
of $ to generate these lists of forbidden items. But there's a lot more stuff still on eBay that either is just as silly or that could epresent a threat to the U.S.
> Anyone have any idea what's going on here? GThanks!
> Jack
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