[Milsurplus] photos

Sun Dec 6 12:44:51 EST 2015

Bill, how many in CCA  these  days!?

OK  folks  if  you want to start something yourself there  are many  places 
to  do lists at including  using the software  your self as  I remember 
most of it is open source.

Each listserv set up of company admin'ing the servers  pretty  much  sets 
the  rules,  then the listserv admin that   purchases services can make  a 
selection of  what to allow or not  allow.. but  if the server  owner has 
selected no photos    you are pretty much out of  luck. You  can yack at your   
club  admin that is  purchasing the  space on   listserv  BUT   NOT  MUCH 
WILL EVER  CHANGE UNLESS  listserc.com  WANTS TO ALLOW IT. Of course  if a  
club or   group  does not like this  there are other list homes  that can  be  
employed that have features that  a club desires to utilize.

here is the skinny on Listserv.com
ListServe.com  is not associated with L-Soft International, Inc., 
developers of LISTSERV�  mailing list software.
ListSrerv    is a company that   has its business  as  running list  serves 
 thus  they have to charge to stay in biz.

OK for those that are curious
monthly fees  for listserv.com are:

1 - 49       
$15.00   

50  - 99     $20.00 

100  - 249  $22.00    

250  - 499  $25.00 

500  - 999  $35.00 

1000+     _Request Quote_ (mailto:sales at look.net?subject=ListServe%20Quote) 

Pretty reasonable unless you like  running  your  own  servers  or  do the 
admin  work on someone else's platform.   (valid  point... when I was a kid 
I liked working on cars but... the  older I get the more I just was to "turn 
the key and make it  go!")

and Ron:  Yea I do like  your Yahoo groups and the photos   we   all share
visuals  are sometimes  90% of the  message. ( a picture is worth a 
thousand words!)

We also use the Yahoo  for the Tom-Swift book interest   group  ( for fans 
and science minded folk) and we have the photos   turned on also.

There are people that  do not like  getting photos .. why?   I am not  
certain,  but ourselves being both engineers and also  media  folk  we  like the 
visual.

anyway  more than 2 cents  worth!

Have a great rest of weekend

Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC

In a message dated 12/6/2015 5:23:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  w
4ron at carolina.rr.com writes:

I use  Yahoo Groups for all the lists I own, they have a setting
where you can  allow attachments or not, and they are FREE.
They also have group web sites  where any member can upload
photos or files to. I think individual photos  or files can't
be bigger than 20MB.

R-

---- Bill Carns  <wcarns at austin.rr.com> wrote: 
> We run the CCA list at  LISTSERVE.com. Or, I should say, we use 
Listserve.com to put our list  on.  THEY do not allow attachments. We pay for this 
service to  Listserve.com and we eat that cost as a service to our members and 
others that  share our interests that pay us nothing.
> Everyone should be aware that  the answer is not just a simple turning on 
and turning off of a switch and  that the people who run the lists are not 
being "arbitrary".
> 
>  Lists are provided free usually by some organization for your 
convenience.  But, that org pays money to have it supported somewhere, and as 
important,  they put time and effort into managing it.
> 
> Lists take HUGE  server capacity and usually involve archives for your 
convenience. Passing  photos adds another huge orders of magnitude of required 
capacity (HUGE HUGE!)  to the server support requirement and servers are 
expensive and require  support and maintenance and add eventually to the 
costs. Those costs must be  passed along to the organization (in our case the 
Collins Collectors  Association) and we then we need to absorb that cost unless 
we start charging  for use of the list. This is particularly true now that 
cameras take such high  resolution photos and generate megabyte files and 
most users do not know how  to decimate them to a lower file size effectively.
> 
> It is very  true that there are several free to everyone file passing 
sites that you can  upload files to and then just provide a link. The use of 
these is not  difficult to set up. This subject comes up often and everyone 
should please  understand the issues involved  and just let it rest.
> 
>  And, Ralph, I do not know who supports your lists, but they must be very 
 generous, or your org must be ready to pay more ??
> 
>  Bill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milsurplus  [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf 
Of Ron Lawrence  W4RON
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 9:45 PM
> To:  milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] photos
>  
> I this day and time I don't know why attachments are allowed.
>  Most people have good enough antivirus software that it's not really a 
problem  anymore. 
> Just be careful what kind of attached files you click  on.
> I manage several email lists, AWA, CC-AWA, TCA etc and I've taken  the no 
attachments rule off of all of them. I sure makes it a lot easier to do  
things when you can easily share photos on the list.
> 
> >  
> > The list does not accept attachments. Sorry.
> >  
> > Ralph
> > Milsurplus Admin
> > 
>  >
> 
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everythingness  of everything, in cahoots
with the everythingness of everything  else.
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