[Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 89, Issue 29

Schreiber, Patrick Patrick.Schreiber at arrowsheds.com
Fri Sep 16 13:38:44 EDT 2011 

FYI, Here is a source for great looking braided wire in all colors with the tracers. And you can buy small quantities. Was following your thread and thought this might be a little help.

Narragansett Reproductions
107 Woodville Road
Wood River Junction
Rhode Island
401 364 3839

Good Luck!
Pat Schreiber

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [ARC5] Wire (J. Forster)
   2. Re: [ARC5] Wire (Peter Gottlieb)
   3. Re: Black paint/white paint (Paul Kraemer)
   4. Re: [ARC5] Wire (J. Forster)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:35:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Wire
To: nerd at verizon.net
Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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Yes and no. It can be either nylon coated or not. Look at the spools of
THHN at Home Depot or a similar place. THHN is mostly a temperature spec.

There are other options like MTW.

Also, THHN in sizes smaller than #14 is hard to get. It may be available
through an electronics supplier, but you probably have to buy 1000'
minimum.

Finally, modern THHN is printed along its length. WW II wire was generally
not, or if it was, it had circuit numbers on it.

Best,

-John

================


> Nylon coated PVC sounds like THHN electrical conduit wire.
>
>
>
> On 9/15/2011 9:12 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>> YW. It looks OK for chassis wiring, but, sadly, not for cables. I'm not
sure there are any good alternatives to stranded Teflon in Expando
>> for cables. The nylon coated PVC seems to be very hard to get.
>> -John
>> ===============
>>> It may not be cheap but it's a heck of a lot easier.  Thanks, John!
Best regards,
>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP
BGI
>>> I am me.  I?m the only one who?s qualified.
>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>> http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>> Hiki N?!
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quikus.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 September, 2011 14:50
>>> To: h Kludge
>>> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Wire
>>> Not cheap, but:
>>> http://tubesandmore.com/Catalog/page_084_085.php
>>> -John
>>> ===========
>>>> In looking at the fabric over rubber wiring used way back when, there
seem
>>>> to be two different flavors, one that has the fabric kind of loose
and
>>>> easily frayed and the other has the fabric somehow bonded to the rubber
>>>> which reduces fraying and makes for neater work.  Since I?m going to try
>>>> my
>>>> hand at making fabric over something wire in an attempt at making things
>>>> appear even more authentic*, it would be nice to know how it was done
originally.  ?Something? may wind up plastic, vinyl or Teflon
dependent
>>>> on
>>>> what I can get that looks right as to overall bulk.
>>>> * I may even try lacing in the tracers which would probably not be good
>>>> therapy when they take me back to psych lockdown as a result of this
activity.  Nor would basket weaving.  :-)
>>>> The way I think this will work is to use white older type flat
shoelaces,
>>>> wet them and force them over forms (read as: dowels) while they dry
to
>>>> reduce or take out the creases.  (This may also require a bit of
ironing.)
>>>> After that, introduce them to some RIT dye to get the right base colors
>>>> for
>>>> color coded wiring and put them back over the forms to dry.  Assuming
(and
>>>> we all know what that word means) this works as planned, I may actually
>>>> try
>>>> lacing in the tracers although it would be insanely time&  labor
intensive
>>>> and only a few people would actually realize that the tracers are
supposed
>>>> to be there.  I think all of them are in these lists.  Anyway, a little
>>>> yellow varnish to give it the official MFP look and I should have
wire
>>>> good
>>>> for open cables.
>>>> If the basic project goes well ? i.e., the part about using shoelaces to
>>>> make a reasonable facsimile of WW II cloth covered wire ? the next step
>>>> would be to use the same basic technique to make vinyl over white woven
>>>> fabric over vinyl wiring used in later aircraft.  I?m not sure I know
what
>>>> to seal the fabric with but after that?s done the top coat can be a dip
>>>> in
>>>> Dip-It clear vinyl.  If this works as I think it will, this will
solve
>>>> the
>>>> problem of wiring up the Type 12 equipment with more or less period
appropriate open wire.
>>>> Using shoelaces presents two problems right off.  First, the prices
of
>>>> good
>>>> ones that don?t have the funky seams on each edge and are small
enough
>>>> have
>>>> gone out of sight.  Second, it limits the size of any given run to
the
>>>> length of the longest laces I can find.  On the other hand, for
everything
>>>> except the SCR-A*-183 I?ll be using open wiring as much as possible,
mostly
>>>> because I like it but also because a good number of my connectors are
for
>>>> open wiring and it?s easier to convert the ones that aren?t to that than
>>>> it
>>>> is the ones for open wiring to shielded cable.
>>>> So there it is.  Thoughts?
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP BGI
>>>> I am me.  I?m the only one who?s qualified.
>>>>   <http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx>
>>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>>>   <http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/>  http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>>>   <http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com/>
>>>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>>> Hiki N?!
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:50:13 -0400
From: Peter Gottlieb <nerd at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Wire
To: jfor at quikus.com
Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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The outer coat is to reduce friction for pulling through conduit. I've seen 16
and 18 AWG, but yeah, we get it 10,000 feet at a time on big spools. Yes,
printed with rating, it is required by the inspectors. If you are having trouble
getting to sleep you can have a conversation about what the rating means with my
safety and compliance guy.


On 9/15/2011 9:35 PM, J. Forster wrote:
> Yes and no. It can be either nylon coated or not. Look at the spools of
> THHN at Home Depot or a similar place. THHN is mostly a temperature spec.
>
> There are other options like MTW.
>
> Also, THHN in sizes smaller than #14 is hard to get. It may be available
> through an electronics supplier, but you probably have to buy 1000'
> minimum.
>
> Finally, modern THHN is printed along its length. WW II wire was generally
> not, or if it was, it had circuit numbers on it.
>
> Best,
>
> -John
>
> ================
>
>
>> Nylon coated PVC sounds like THHN electrical conduit wire.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/15/2011 9:12 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>>> YW. It looks OK for chassis wiring, but, sadly, not for cables. I'm not
> sure there are any good alternatives to stranded Teflon in Expando
>>> for cables. The nylon coated PVC seems to be very hard to get.
>>> -John
>>> ===============
>>>> It may not be cheap but it's a heck of a lot easier.  Thanks, John!
> Best regards,
>>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP
> BGI
>>>> I am me.  I?m the only one who?s qualified.
>>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>>> http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>>> Hiki N?!
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quikus.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 September, 2011 14:50
>>>> To: h Kludge
>>>> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Wire
>>>> Not cheap, but:
>>>> http://tubesandmore.com/Catalog/page_084_085.php
>>>> -John
>>>> ===========
>>>>> In looking at the fabric over rubber wiring used way back when, there
> seem
>>>>> to be two different flavors, one that has the fabric kind of loose
> and
>>>>> easily frayed and the other has the fabric somehow bonded to the rubber
>>>>> which reduces fraying and makes for neater work.  Since I?m going to try
>>>>> my
>>>>> hand at making fabric over something wire in an attempt at making things
>>>>> appear even more authentic*, it would be nice to know how it was done
> originally.  ?Something? may wind up plastic, vinyl or Teflon
> dependent
>>>>> on
>>>>> what I can get that looks right as to overall bulk.
>>>>> * I may even try lacing in the tracers which would probably not be good
>>>>> therapy when they take me back to psych lockdown as a result of this
> activity.  Nor would basket weaving.  :-)
>>>>> The way I think this will work is to use white older type flat
> shoelaces,
>>>>> wet them and force them over forms (read as: dowels) while they dry
> to
>>>>> reduce or take out the creases.  (This may also require a bit of
> ironing.)
>>>>> After that, introduce them to some RIT dye to get the right base colors
>>>>> for
>>>>> color coded wiring and put them back over the forms to dry.  Assuming
> (and
>>>>> we all know what that word means) this works as planned, I may actually
>>>>> try
>>>>> lacing in the tracers although it would be insanely time&   labor
> intensive
>>>>> and only a few people would actually realize that the tracers are
> supposed
>>>>> to be there.  I think all of them are in these lists.  Anyway, a little
>>>>> yellow varnish to give it the official MFP look and I should have
> wire
>>>>> good
>>>>> for open cables.
>>>>> If the basic project goes well ? i.e., the part about using shoelaces to
>>>>> make a reasonable facsimile of WW II cloth covered wire ? the next step
>>>>> would be to use the same basic technique to make vinyl over white woven
>>>>> fabric over vinyl wiring used in later aircraft.  I?m not sure I know
> what
>>>>> to seal the fabric with but after that?s done the top coat can be a dip
>>>>> in
>>>>> Dip-It clear vinyl.  If this works as I think it will, this will
> solve
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem of wiring up the Type 12 equipment with more or less period
> appropriate open wire.
>>>>> Using shoelaces presents two problems right off.  First, the prices
> of
>>>>> good
>>>>> ones that don?t have the funky seams on each edge and are small
> enough
>>>>> have
>>>>> gone out of sight.  Second, it limits the size of any given run to
> the
>>>>> length of the longest laces I can find.  On the other hand, for
> everything
>>>>> except the SCR-A*-183 I?ll be using open wiring as much as possible,
> mostly
>>>>> because I like it but also because a good number of my connectors are
> for
>>>>> open wiring and it?s easier to convert the ones that aren?t to that than
>>>>> it
>>>>> is the ones for open wiring to shielded cable.
>>>>> So there it is.  Thoughts?
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP BGI
>>>>> I am me.  I?m the only one who?s qualified.
>>>>>    <http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx>
>>>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>>>>    <http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/>   http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>>>>    <http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com/>
>>>>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>>>> Hiki N?!
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:40 -0500
From: "Paul Kraemer" <elespe at lisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Black paint/white paint
To: "Nick England" <navy.radio at gmail.com>,
        <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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Goes along with what I have seen on contracts of that type. Full disclosure,
no proprietary items. Carried over to large industrial contracts too.
Munincipalities would be wise to take a lesson from that. Too many times I
see them get stuck with a bunch of proprietary items where the originator
won't even release service information.  Then us poor folk in the trenches
10 years down the road are stuck with trying to fix it with no supporting
information.  Unfortunately the originator is long gone or bankrupt and the
customer just keeps paying through the nose. Ever wonder why your city is
always out of money? Politics, that is why.
Paul K0UYA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick England" <navy.radio at gmail.com>
To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Black paint/white paint


That was the deal on military procurements - the original supplier was
required to provide complete documentation so that subsequent
contractors could make clones. I have come across some interesting
lawsuit docs on-line from when the 2nd contractor could only make out
about 75% of the govt-furnished microfilmed drawings from the original
contractor.

p.s. never saw any "white" scopes while I was working at US Naval
Elecronics Systems test & Evaluation Facility...but it was fun
watching gray scopes get tested on the "lightweight" shock test
machine (5' drop of a 400 lb hammer).

At least they didn't have to undergo the "heavyweight" shock test
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5792069545817995838#docid=7060797370504105853

cheers,
Nick K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM, J. Forster <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
> A friend set up and ran the line for those clones. It was strictly the
> lowest bidder got the job. They were exact copies.
>
> -John
>
> ===============
>
>
>> I remember those clones. They made their way to the US Air Force as
>> well. I was already familiar with the Tektronix models they copied,
>> and figured it was just being sure there were two or more suppliers. I
>> still think the Tektronix had an edge in quality and performance.
>>
>> Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
>>
>> Ralph Cameron wrote:
>>> Paint reminds me of the U.S. Navy contract to buy Tek scopes painted
>>> white- Tek refused to deviate from their standard blue so the gov't
>>> awarded contracts to Hiicock and Lavoie. Both contractors copied the Tek
>>> scopes including some spare holes that found their way into the chassis.
>>> Tek sued and many years later the gov't paid $7million compensation for
>>> patent infringement. Past history now and I am sure there3 have been
>>> many similar procurement blips.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>> VE3BBM
>>>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:14:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Wire
To: nerd at verizon.net
Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <3205.12.6.201.39.1316139240.squirrel at popaccts.quikus.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

> The outer coat is to reduce friction for pulling through conduit.

Yes.

I've seen 16 and 18 AWG, but yeah, we get it 10,000 feet at a time on big
spools.

MTW may be available.

Yes,
> printed with rating, it is required by the inspectors. If you are having
> trouble
> getting to sleep you can have a conversation about what the rating means
> with my
> safety and compliance guy.

Nah. I just read the NEC.

-John

================
>
>
> On 9/15/2011 9:35 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>> Yes and no. It can be either nylon coated or not. Look at the spools of
>> THHN at Home Depot or a similar place. THHN is mostly a temperature
>> spec.
>>
>> There are other options like MTW.
>>
>> Also, THHN in sizes smaller than #14 is hard to get. It may be available
>> through an electronics supplier, but you probably have to buy 1000'
>> minimum.
>>
>> Finally, modern THHN is printed along its length. WW II wire was
>> generally
>> not, or if it was, it had circuit numbers on it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ================
>>
>>
>>> Nylon coated PVC sounds like THHN electrical conduit wire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2011 9:12 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>>>> YW. It looks OK for chassis wiring, but, sadly, not for cables. I'm
>>>> not
>> sure there are any good alternatives to stranded Teflon in Expando
>>>> for cables. The nylon coated PVC seems to be very hard to get.
>>>> -John
>>>> ===============
>>>>> It may not be cheap but it's a heck of a lot easier.  Thanks, John!
>> Best regards,
>>>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP
>> BGI
>>>>> I am me.  I?m the only one who?s qualified.
>>>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>>>> http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>>>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>>>> Hiki N?!
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quikus.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 September, 2011 14:50
>>>>> To: h Kludge
>>>>> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Wire
>>>>> Not cheap, but:
>>>>> http://tubesandmore.com/Catalog/page_084_085.php
>>>>> -John
>>>>> ===========
>>>>>> In looking at the fabric over rubber wiring used way back when,
>>>>>> there
>> seem
>>>>>> to be two different flavors, one that has the fabric kind of loose
>> and
>>>>>> easily frayed and the other has the fabric somehow bonded to the
>>>>>> rubber
>>>>>> which reduces fraying and makes for neater work.  Since I?m going to
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> hand at making fabric over something wire in an attempt at making
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> appear even more authentic*, it would be nice to know how it was
>>>>>> done
>> originally.  ?Something? may wind up plastic, vinyl or Teflon
>> dependent
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> what I can get that looks right as to overall bulk.
>>>>>> * I may even try lacing in the tracers which would probably not be
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> therapy when they take me back to psych lockdown as a result of this
>> activity.  Nor would basket weaving.  :-)
>>>>>> The way I think this will work is to use white older type flat
>> shoelaces,
>>>>>> wet them and force them over forms (read as: dowels) while they dry
>> to
>>>>>> reduce or take out the creases.  (This may also require a bit of
>> ironing.)
>>>>>> After that, introduce them to some RIT dye to get the right base
>>>>>> colors
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> color coded wiring and put them back over the forms to dry.
>>>>>> Assuming
>> (and
>>>>>> we all know what that word means) this works as planned, I may
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> lacing in the tracers although it would be insanely time&   labor
>> intensive
>>>>>> and only a few people would actually realize that the tracers are
>> supposed
>>>>>> to be there.  I think all of them are in these lists.  Anyway, a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> yellow varnish to give it the official MFP look and I should have
>> wire
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> for open cables.
>>>>>> If the basic project goes well ? i.e., the part about using
>>>>>> shoelaces to
>>>>>> make a reasonable facsimile of WW II cloth covered wire ? the next
>>>>>> step
>>>>>> would be to use the same basic technique to make vinyl over white
>>>>>> woven
>>>>>> fabric over vinyl wiring used in later aircraft.  I?m not sure I
>>>>>> know
>> what
>>>>>> to seal the fabric with but after that?s done the top coat can be a
>>>>>> dip
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Dip-It clear vinyl.  If this works as I think it will, this will
>> solve
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem of wiring up the Type 12 equipment with more or less period
>> appropriate open wire.
>>>>>> Using shoelaces presents two problems right off.  First, the prices
>> of
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> ones that don?t have the funky seams on each edge and are small
>> enough
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> gone out of sight.  Second, it limits the size of any given run to
>> the
>>>>>> length of the longest laces I can find.  On the other hand, for
>> everything
>>>>>> except the SCR-A*-183 I?ll be using open wiring as much as possible,
>> mostly
>>>>>> because I like it but also because a good number of my connectors
>>>>>> are
>> for
>>>>>> open wiring and it?s easier to convert the ones that aren?t to that
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is the ones for open wiring to shielded cable.
>>>>>> So there it is.  Thoughts?
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP
>>>>>> BGI
>>>>>> I am me.  I?m the only one who?s qualified.
>>>>>>    <http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx>
>>>>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
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