[Milsurplus] Archive to Donate

J. Forster jfor at quikus.com
Fri Nov 11 15:58:13 EST 2011


It's an attempt by the P_laintiff at greenmail. He figures that most of
the Defendants will settle oput for cash, rather than pay a lawyer to
defend the claim. I'd bet that a strong letter from the Defendant's
lawyer, and the threat will go poof.

I'd be tempted to go to the DA or media with it. It's a poster case for
Tort Reform, IMO. IMO, the Plaintiff's lawyer should be sanctioned.

-John

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> That was an interesting complaint.  At leaast 5 of the defendants
> I have dealt with.  BTW, let me know if you ever find any Hg in a 6BQ5.
>
> -ls-
>
> "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>> The Defendant has a remedy. Look for a lawyer to counterclaim against
>> the
>> Plaintiff for Abuse of Process and seek legal fees and punitive damages,
>> and go for Summary Judgement because the Plaintiff lacks proof of ever
>> having bought anything with tubes in it from the Defendant.
>>
>> Judge Judy would throw it out in a heartbeat.
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ==============
>>
>>
>> > In regards to "Who, other than a historian would want it?" maybe I was
>> > speaking in more general terms. Not just archives and written evidence
>> but
>> > also components, sub assemblies or complete systems. In today's world
>> you
>> > can be sued for someone's use of an item you produced regardless of if
>> you
>> > sold or gave it to them. Consider this nut, who is suing tube
>> manufactures
>> > and resellers, look at web address:
>> >
>> > http://www.cascadesurplus.com/lawsuit/
>> >
>> > What you and I may consider abuse of the legal process other wackjobs
>> may
>> > consider excursing a legal right. Supposed you release your research
>> > archives and this nut job reads that your company burnt off a non used
>> > byproduct in a sounding rocket flight the year he was born, and that's
>> why
>> > now he has headaches.  That sounds almost as passable as his mercury
>> from
>> > tubes story.
>> > RF
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quikus.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:51 PM
>> > To: Ray Fantini
>> > Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Archive to Donate
>> >
>> >> When I was involved with AMSAT we had lots of people and companies
>> >> that wanted to donate archives. Problem was storage space was always
>> an
>> >> issue.
>> >> Paper archives can build up fast, quite often we are talking about
>> >> hundreds of items so it's not just a box of records but hundreds of
>> >> pounds of papers. Warehouse space is expensive, rent and utilities
>> >> along with someone to stack, catalog and move the stuff.
>> >
>> > A fair point, but there are records and meaningful records.
>> >
>> > In buying surplus, I've been through warehouses that had hundreds of
>> feet
>> > of shelving of boxes of paper. Most of that is meaningless...  trhings
>> > like QA reports on modules, test records, purchase orders, and the
>> other
>> > day-to-day paper of producing product. The meaningful engineering
>> stuff,
>> > which should be preserved, is a tiny subset of that.
>> >
>> >> Whenever you get a donated
>> >> storage space that has a habit of going away at some point then
>> you're
>> >> moving all that stuff again. We had a time just allocating space for
>> >> donated flight ready hardware, tools and test equipment, stewardship
>> >> of others archives had to be a lower priority. Then in the case of
>> >> corporate material many companies cannot consider giving the material
>> >> to an individual because then they have no control over it. What if
>> >> that person goes thru that material and finds information that's
>> >> detrimental to the company and publishes it?
>> >
>> > Records are usually held by the originator company until the Statute
>> of
>> > Limitations has long expired.
>> >
>> >> What if they turn around and sell it?
>> >
>> > Who, other than a historian would want it? Is anybody really going to
>> > build new ARC-5s today?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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