[Milsurplus] Strong Stomach Needed.

Lloyd KK7IZ kk7iz at cox.net
Thu Jul 16 15:59:24 EDT 2009


Aw, come on Mike. Tell us how you really feel. (GRINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN)
Thanx
Lloyd  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Tauson" <wh7hg.hi at gmail.com>
To: <jfor at quik.com>
Cc: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Strong Stomach Needed.


> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM, J. Forster<jfor at quik.com> wrote:
>> It is his stuff. I believe in property rights strongly. But if I saw
>> someone beating the crap out of a puppy, am I not allowed to voice the
>> opinion thaqt doing so is wrong?
>
> Huh?  When did this become something about a living breathing
> creature?  Can we say "apples & peanuts"?
>
>> Frankly, neither do I, because knowing you don't place a premium on
>> condition, means less competion for those who do.
>
> Let's put this on a more level playing field, automobiles.  A
> gentleman I knew back on the mainland restores classic cars and has
> won quite a few awards for his work.  Some of the parts are replicas
> because the originals (especially rubber & plastic pieces) simply are
> not available.  According to your rules, the cars weren't untouched so
> he had no concept of quality.  Instead, they are beneath contempt as
> having been fully restored to operating condition and as close to
> original as possible.
>
> Do I put a premium on condition?  Yes, but I'm also not as wealthy as
> you apparently are nor do I have the opportunity to go to hamfests et
> al like are held on the mainland so have to depend on other sources.
> So, instead of insisting on perfection, I go for something less
> perfect and restore what I can just like the gentleman who restored
> the antique cars.  There is no difference.
>
> As far as the equipment you've fired up with all the original bits,
> good for you.  So have I.  But not all the sets were that fortunate
> and I had to restuff the potted caps and do other maintenance.  Some
> were pre-converted and I put them back to as close to as-built
> condition as possible.  I guess that means I don't value quality too
> but I have a sense of accomplishment in exchange.
>
> Oh, and your "record setting" QSO?  So what?  I've got one publication
> (that I can talk about and that anyone here will ever see) that went
> international and a second in the works that will hopefully meet the
> same market.  So what?  Starting in the early 60s, I used to teach (as
> opposed to merely lecture or give talks) about boatanchors in general
> and surplus specifically.  (Yeah, I know - boatanchors were the rule
> then but not everyone was born with unlimited knowledge as some here
> apparently were, plus surplus wasn't all that well known.)  So what?
> Others here have "brags".  So what?
>
> All of us are supposed to be here for the purpose of helping each
> other because we enjoy different aspects of the hobby rather than
> condemning those who don't live up to some narrow set of standards.
> By and large, the folks here are wonderful because they are flexible
> and understand each other's POV - or at least accept that there is
> more than one approach and don't condemn others for not sharing their
> own.
>
> The recent discussion regarding semiconductor Type K VFOs is a good
> example.  Purists probably had heart attacks - or I hope they did.
> Anyway, I have a BC-696 I picked up for parts that has a mostly intact
> VFO that will make a nice bed for a new multiband rig using that
> semiconductor conversion.  I don't feel bad about doing so simply
> because it is a seriously unvirgin and it would take too much to put
> it back in original condition.  The only other choice is to strip it
> for the remaining parts and I'd really rather not do that.
>
> But getting back to the point, if I had a choice all the equipment I
> have or will have on site would be absolutely immaculate with all the
> components in perfect operating condition.  I don't have that choice.
> If the purists can't accept that, it's on them, not me.  It's not any
> of us imperfect fools who can settle for less that prefect.
>
> Michael, WH7HG
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> Hiki Nô!
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