[Milsurplus] Paypal Farce

[J Forster]

Been there. Done it. A waste of time, IMO. you're just playing
Whak-A-Mole with different divisions of the same operation.

I know it would likely not help in international deals, but you should
see the letter the USPIS sent to the guy in San Jose who tried to
defraud me.  He paid up the day he got it apparently. Jail was his real
option.

-John

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WA5CAB at cs.com wrote:

> Ben,
>
> First, let me point out that the assumption that stuff like this only
> happens to buyers is false.  PayPal pulled one on us only yesterday
> and has taken away our payment based on a buyer's false claim of
> non-receipt, hijacked account, etc. several times.  But I won't waste
> space on the details.  I'll just say (again) that PayPal and eBay
> don't side with either buyers or sellers.  They side with PayPal and
> eBay.
>
> But in this case, technically PayPal is correct.  Your beef should be
> with eBay, although it may do no more good.  If you log into your eBay
> account and find the Dispute Console (usually a link on your My eBay
> page but yours could be different from the current US one), you'll
> find an option to report an item as significantly unlike what the
> seller claimed.  Beyond that, I know nothing about how or if it works
> as we've never needed to use it as buyers and no buyer ever used it on
> us.  But it won't cost you anything but a little time to try it.
>
> In a message dated 9/28/2008 6:58:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
> Military1944 at aol.com writes:
>
>> Well, seems all the hype Paypal and Ebay spout about themselves is
>> pure bunkum.
>>
>> Having received an item, paid for using Paypal, which turned out to
>> be not as advertised I made a claim.
>>
>> Paypals reply:
>>
>> Our investigation into the following transaction is complete. As
>> stated in
>> our User Agreement, the claims process only applies to the delivery
>> of
>> goods. It does not apply to complaints about the attributes or
>> quality of
>> goods received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction
>> or
>> issue a refund.
>>
>>
>> So, apparently, Paypal are quite happy to give your money away for
>> any rubbish, whatever it is, so long as you receive it.  Now, I
>> don't know about you but that's what I call 'Protection'!!.
>>
>> I intend taking the matter to the UK Trading Standards. I suggest
>> anyone else (in the UK) does the same and those in other countries
>> contact their consumer agencies.
>>
>> The seller?, a chap in Mornington Peninsula, Victoria, Australia.
>> BEWARE.
>>
>
> Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
> MVPA 9480
>
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