[Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Odd ART-13
Peter Gottlieb
nerd at verizon.net
Sat Nov 20 18:34:04 EST 2004
That's not as crazy as it might sound at first. Those radios were
pushing the state of the art back then and made at high speed with a
tremendous amount of engineering work going into each component.
Look today at the items being sold at DRMO and their acquisition costs.
I have a laser pulse cloud height instrument that is a box (about a
foot cube) with several circuit cards and a laser assembly. Cost to
Uncle Sam was over $98,000. Or how about the computer interface box
from IBM? A dozen cards and several power supply modules. REALLY well
made, 7 inch rack mount, and over $260,000. Every piece of metal in
that thing was made on a milling machine! When you factor in the NRE,
the production tooling, the mountains of documentation, the
qualification and production tests including burn-in and rigorous
individual tests, the custom test sets, spares, training, etc, that is
what stuff ends up costing. Of course a lot depends on the accounting,
so for example the initial run might be 100 units and if it costs
$10,000,000 to get those 100 out the door then you could say that each
one costs $100,000 yet the next hundred might only cost $5000 each to
produce. Of course, many contracts are set up so that follow-up orders
are at the same price as the initial order, and that spares from one
contract may not be used in support of a different contract. However,
there is a net good effect of this subsidy of the electronics companies
in that the whole US superiority in electronics was born of it.
Mike Morrow wrote:
> Robert wrote:
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>>Yaah, but...that was 30+ years ago. In 1970 you almost couldn't even give
>>them away. There weren't many of us in those days who would have taken one
>
> even
>
>>as a freebie. And in 1970 with a BSEE from a very good school, I think I
>
> was
>
>>making $750 per month and the brand new Land Rover I had just bought only
>>cost me $3495.00. :-)
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>
>
> Speaking of relative dollar values and ART-13s, according to the Dept. of
> Commerce a dollar in WWII was worth about ten of today's in buying power.
> Walt Hudgens in an ER article about 15 years ago stated that his records
> showed that the ART-13 cost $14,400! Could that be correct...an ART-13 cost
> nearly $150,000 of today's dollars???
>
> I've seen numbers somewhere indicating that even a lowly SCR-274-N receiver
> with dynamotor cost the government about $400. If so, then it took the
> equivalent of $4000 of today's dollars to buy one. I seem to recall that
> the initial US Federal budget estimate to prosecute WWII was $770 billion
> 1941 dollars. I don't know how that compares to what it actually took.
>
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