[MilCom] Army 524 Flight of 6

[Steven William Hines]

Ken-

> That's a real stretch to fly from MS to NY, especially for slow flying 
> helicopters!!!!

If you compare the time elapsed between the two posts (14 hours), the
distance between myself and Daniel (approx. 1200 miles),  a Blackhawk
cruising at 155 knots could cover that distance in under 7 hours.  Take into
account that the aircraft could have been 50 or 100 miles west of me and
that elapsed time is even less,-letting the group get some sleep on the
overnight.

> I think I was hearing some of the same banter, so my guess is the typical 
> airliners, commuter airlines, etc. and NOT military aircraft.

The transmissions I heard did not have the usual "hum' of a commercial
aircraft or the "mask" sound of a fighter...it sounded more like a  helo
headset.  They 'checked in" twice using a Blue Angel like cadence"One-Two-
Three-Four-Five Six-"-definitely six different voices- first similarity to
Daniels' post.


> Usually informal chit chat is conducted on the normal military tactical 
> air/air freqs. They don't go out of their way to use 123.45.

What I heard wasn't informal chit chat.  Their CO would have blown a fuse if
he heard what they were saying-sounded more like CB channel 19, than
aeronautical point to point.  I don't think they went out of there way to
use the freq-it's just a civilian channel that doesn't have the military
'oversight' of a tac channel.

> I've noted over the last 3 or 4 days that there's been a lot more fooling 
> around on 123.45, by I think one specific pilot/copilot.....

What I heard was on 123.45 and 120.3 .  Second similarity to Daniels' post

> I would think that you would have picked up some activity on the typical 
> ATC freqs in the Long Island area, with that specific callsign.

I wasn't monitoring ATC at the time.  Conversely, due to the class airspace
near NYC, many helo (civilian and military) bounce from tower to tower when
they are low (2,000 ft or less??)  They don't use ATC, they use the tower or
self announce on a CTAF.  Those weren't real callsigns -they were more like
"cb handles"

Given last nights nor'easter, when no sane pilot should be flying,  it makes
more sense that this group I heard WAS military.


Steve
Long Island
New York


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven William Hines" <swhines at pipeline.com>
> To: "milcom" <milcom at mailman.qth.net>; "Daniel Michel" 
> <danmichel at mindspring.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [MilCom] Army 524 Flight of 6
>
>
>> On Sunday evening (4-15-2007)around 9pm local , I heard a flight of 6 
>> aircraft using 123.45 and 120.30, moving slowly through the area.  They 
>> used callsigns 'rubber duck' and 'bombardier'.  Actually they were so 
>> childish in their banter that I hoped it wasn't Milcom.  I bet this was 
>> the same group. Wonder where they are from?
>> Steve
>> Long Island
>> New York
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Daniel Michel" <danmichel at mindspring.com>
>>
>>
>>> TO THE LIST :
>>>
>>> AS OF RIGHT NOW 12:38 PM CDT ARMY 524 FLIGHT OF 6 BLACKHAWS STOPPING OFF 
>>> AT KUOX /
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