[MilCom] Hobbyists to Charter Aircraft for Military Base Flyovers?

Francesco Ledda frledda at verizon.net
Sun Aug 13 13:20:51 EDT 2006


Usually, military airfields are Class C. No aircraft can penetrate such
airspace without establishing communication with the agency that owes such
airspace.  Therefore, if the Air Force does not want airspace penetration,
they will deny access, once communication are established. When Carswell AFB
housed B-52s on alert, penetration of the base was not permitted.  A
violation of airspace is a serious thing for a pilot with serious
consequences. If the military want to totally forbid an area, they make it
prohibited or restricted airspace.
The Air Force and Navy are though with pilots that make the mistake of
landing in one of their fields.  I heard that they make the owner take the
aircraft apart and truck it out, beside other FAA sanctions.  That would
make a freeway speeding ticket seem like a Christmas gift....

Regarding the approaches, most of the times, military towers welcome
instrument approaches from civil aircraft.  It gives them a chance to their
air traffic controller to get free training.  Unless advised differently,
the approach can be flown all the way down to the runway, as long as the
wheels do not touch the ground.


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From: milcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:21 AM
To: MilCom
Subject: [MilCom] Hobbyists to Charter Aircraft for Military Base
Flyovers?


Stand by the fence line to Westover JARB with a scanner, notepad,
binoculars, & camera  & you get an almost SWAT team response!!  YET I've
noted recently a small civilian private aircraft calls the KCEF Tower
(134.85) & basically states, "got a passenger that would like to see
everything on the base is it ok to fly around?".. Tower responds OK no
traffic.  Hmm, wonder if the paseenger had a camera, scanner, notepad, &
binoculars!!! ;)   Again it's a laugh!!!  If you have security than you have
security not only on the ground but in the air. E.g. NO fly overs the base &
aircraft can only land (joint use airfield)  and not perform low approaches.
I've suggested this in the past to appropriate military officials -- so far
no action taken in the air, BUT on the ground wow!!!!  So I guess that the
best method is for milcom hobbyists to charter an  aircraft to do some "on
scene" monitoring as well as photography without incurring any security
problems!!

Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area


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