[MilCom] Blue Angel Pilot Trash-Talks the Florida Central-East Coast!

Jesse [email protected]
Sat Apr 26 16:11:03 2003


GeorgeF. wrote:
> You may not like the post but don't kill the messenger, just reporting 
> what was heard, the good, the bad, the ugly.
> 
> Did everyone miss the point?  I guess so.  I can't believe this, this is 
> almost like a military cover-up to cover-up the unprofessionalism of one 
> of their own.  Sorry but that is what I heard and I don't feel the need 
> to "sanitize" what I hear.  That would be the equivalent of a newscaster 
> deleting the "bad" parts of a news story.   In short maybe I should not 
> have posted about it here but just put it on the website.  I really 
> don't need the advertising of this group in order to gain web traffic as 
> the site gets an average of 3000 unique visitors daily.  (during the 
> heat of the war it was about 5000).  However I thought I was sharing 
> something with the group that would be of interest to the group.  I 
> guess I thought wrong as it appears that this group only wants sanitized 
> news, I sure that is not the case.
> 
> I feel that 99.99% of military personal are very professional and in no 
> way was this post meant to argue that point.  Someone emailed thinking 
> that I was anti-military/anti-war because of my post.   That couldn't be 
> farther from the truth!  I'm as pro-war and pro-military as one could 
> be.  However those flying for or are members of the crews of any US 
> Military Demonstration team need to show 100.0% professionalism as they 
> are picked for  there respective teams because they are the best of the 
> best.   What I heard was less than professional and most certainly  not 
> the "best of the best".     After all there are a thousand people that 
> would love to take that pilots place and probably more deserving as the 
> pilot in question lacks the respect and professionalism required by the 
> team.
> 
> Those are my thoughts.
> 
> Those who would think going "secure" on routine air-air, ATC, comms are 
> a bit off base.  I don't think the military would (or could) devote the 
> resources required to secure air-air comms.  Secure comms is a very 
> resource intensive chore.
> 
> Just some quick stats:  For every neg. email I've received regarding 
> these comms I've received about 5 postitive.
> 
> George
> http://www.MilAirComms.com

Don't know what to tell ya George. Hard as it might be to resist
"reporting" what you hear, I cannot see for the life of me how this will 
be in the least bit beneficial to publicize.
Chances of them going secure now I agree are slim to none.
True also,they didn't have any reasonable expectation of privacy, 
talking on an open channel in the clear.
Most likely they will hop freqs more often,and be on their guard on 
whats said.
I think a line must be drawn at some point,and I think you crossed it.
I noticed you publicized your catch in the scanner news groups also,and 
I agree with the sentiments of Jay,though it was a bit overly harsh,in 
true usenet fashion.
I think incidents like this do give people the impression that we in the 
monitoring community are akin to nosey,gossipy little girls who cant 
keep a secret.
You say its you duty to report what you hear.
If you feel self appointed to do just that,theres not much that can stop 
you.
I wish you'd exercise a little common sense though,and cut a little more 
slack for our fighting men than you would the average person.
Theres nothing,I repeat,nothing to be gained in humiliating the Blues 
over this.

I just wonder why you receive 5 positives for 1 neg in private,and just 
the opposite here.

Jesse

> 
> At 06:13 AM 4/26/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> 
>> I agree, remove it before they change all their freqs or go secure.
>>
>> Personally I don't care about his opinions.  I've heard teams trash 
>> New Orleans
>> (they made some good points, but I digress).
>>
>> Good catch, now make it go away before the skipper gets it.
>>
>> Tom
>> --- Dan Myers <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > While your intentions may have been to share this with us, I don't 
>> think
>> > you should be making this public.  I would strongly encourage 
>> removing this
>> > from public domain.
>> > Dan Myers
>> > Horsham, Pa