[MilCom] UN INTERCEPTS

Skywatch [email protected]
Sat Apr 19 13:12:09 2003


Steve,

Like the military, they only transit things in the clear that they don't 
mind people listening to. Voice codes are very effective when used 
properly. EG "Paris, this is Denver, go to point New York Alpha and look 
for Vodka or Bourbon" - Not much info in those sort of comms unless you 
know in advance what is going on.  Just make sure that people are kpet 
up-to-date by other means (meetings, runners, satcom etc) so that there is 
no need to give _anything_ away on non-secure links. - It's worked for the 
military for years! (well, sort of ;-)    )

Skywatch


At 11:55 19/04/2003 -0500, Steve Douglass wrote:

>  If  UN inspectors are forbidden from encryption when doing weapons 
> inspections,  how could they possibly have had any chance of success when 
> the Iraqis .. just by listening in.. would know their every move in 
> advance?  How could they ever hold surprise inspections at places 
> where  they suspected the  Iraqis were hiding WMD?  Sounds like a process 
> that was doomed from the start.  No wonder the Bush admin. had no hopes 
> that the UN could do their job effectively.
>
>-Steve
>
>
>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I think that the UN are forbiddne to encrypt their radios as that would 
>>cast suspicion on an agnecy that is _supposed_ to be global and 
>>impartial. IF they really are up front and only relaying the truth, why 
>>would they need to encrypt?
>>
>>Similarly some NATO duties cary a similar onus to prove that every nation 
>>is eual in the eyes of the treaty countries...
>>
>>Skywatch
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>>At 09:46 19/04/2003 -0500, Steve Douglass wrote:
>>>Last night on the ABC Nightly News they showed a cache of Iraqi 
>>>Intelligence Agency documents found hidden away in an abandoned 
>>>stairwell of an apartment complex detailing the interception and 
>>>eavesdropping done  on UN weapons inspectors radios. There were hundreds 
>>>of logs and transcripts  listing what was being overheard and what 
>>>frequencies the UN Inspectors were operating on. Frequencies listed were 
>>>in the 410 to 418 MHz range.
>>>
>>>What I found interesting is that it seemed from the relative ease the 
>>>Iraqis had in listening in on the UN inspectors that no frequency 
>>>hopping or encryption was being used. A translator read some excerpts 
>>>from the detailed intercepts and they showed a list of what was said on 
>>>what frequency so it was pretty clear the interceptions were made in the 
>>>clear in standard simplex and duplex frequency modes.
>>>
>>>There was also a document detailing cell-phone interceptions. No wonder 
>>>the Iraqis had no problem out-witting the inspectors!
>>>
>>>I wonder what they use to listen in with? Bearcats? Winradios?  Tin cans?
>>>
>>>
>>>-Steve Douglass
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