[Meteor-Scatter] How to answer CQ in VHF MS?

Catharinus PE1AHX pe1ahx at amsat.org
Sun Dec 16 08:32:26 EST 2007


Janne,

The sequence should be:

RX              -       CQ3xx RK1B
TX (answer)     -       RK1B OH5LID 26 26 (this is acccording to the IARU 
R1 procedure)
RX              -       OH5LID RK1B R26 R26
TX              -       RRRR OH5LID (or 5LID or LID depending how unique 
your callsign is as full callsigns were already confirmed)
(QSO now complete according to IARU R1 procedure but)
RX              -       73 RK1B (or 73 RK1B or 73 LID 1B for 2-5 periods 
depending on whether you are in pileup or not).

Use 4x RRRR to prevent a mixup with a possible suffix.  If a QSO takes a 
short time to complete AND you are an expedition do not waste too much time 
to send double confirmation since the "other" station - in this case OH5LID 
- will know that he has completed when hearing you in QSO with the next 
station.

Bottom line:  After the technically complete QSO use your own judgement in 
TXing more messages since they are optional.

73
Catharinus PE1AHX

At 11:59 16-12-2007 +0200, OH5LID wrote:
>CQ...
>
>I have interest to hear comments abt answering CQ. What is better way to 
>do or is there any better ways...?
>
>1 example
>
>in 144370 OH5LID hear CQ 3xx RK1B and LID goes 3xx
>
>TX RK1B OH5LID
>RX OH5LID RK1B 26 26
>TX RK1B OH5LID R59 R59
>RX RRR RRR RK1B
>TX RRR RRR OH5LID
>RX OH5A RK1B
>Not TX anylonger
>
>So LID understand that QSO is C
>
>2 LID goes again answering 3xx
>TX RK1B OH5LID 59 59
>RX OH5LIDRK1B R26 R26
>TX RRR RRR OH5LID
>RX RRR RRR RK1B
>TX 73 LID x period
>
>Why to ask, just 1st variant RK1B/1 can TX 1st RRR and when hear RRR then 
>knows that QSO is C, 2nd variant RK1B need to thing how meny period will 
>sent RRR and quess when will be QSO C, just because RK1B then don't hear 
>only 1 but very meny LID's same time in QRG and always QSO don't goes in 3 
>minute optimum time.  Often QSO takes 10 or 20 min and still after 20 min 
>RK1B can hear maybe 5 or 6 LID in rx period (once I count 6 LID still 
>after 16 min when start QSO...). RK1B wrote up 2-4 callsings directly 
>after CQ, Those also click "Auto OFF" when they saw that there is qso 
>going on and didn't make anymore QRM. When at least RK1B received RRR he 
>will thing whom answer next, so there is 6 LID TXing all time, but it's 
>better not answer those because
>
>1 they are sleeping and don't know what is happening in QRG, that's why 
>they are TXing QRM all time
>
>2 They have problems with decoding, that's why thing that qso is still 
>going with they all 6 other station
>
>So better not answer, because seems not possible to make C qso anyway...
>
>RK1B can't even image that there is 3rd variant, so there will be some "ME 
>ME ME" operator who don't cure sh*t abt QRM he makes or that will he 
>destroy other qsos or if not destroy anyway make delay. So need to thing 
>that VHF is only hobby, sqr hunting can't be too serious thing in life.
>
>LID
>
>PS hear interesting story in KO47, one local operator told that somebody 
>sent e-mails and call with telefon weekly abt 3 month because wanted sked. 
>Really that local operator told that not anymore too much interesting VHF 
>MS after that kind of LID, so is this hobby or not?
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