Paul many thanks for your valulbe help it is people like you who help to keep ms going, have atomic time synsc and unticked tx1st looks good for me lok forwarde to getting a good few on rx . kenneth --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/02