[Meteor-Scatter] Perseids and operating procedures!

Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:59:12 +0100

Hi All

Heres my 2 cents worth.

Get Joe K1JT to write a hscw visual decode program along the lines of MSDSP,
that allow CW ops to work normally and non CW ops to view the info on the
screen.
That way we can all go back down the band into the MS section around
144.100.

I used WSJT only during the peak of the shower to see the effect on big
bursts and had problem decoding as many as 4 station in big bursts by moving
the curser around.

Maybe the HSCW ops (me included) should now start to try running at the
higher speed used in the US say 5000-8000lpm make loads of qso and spot them
on CLX to show that there really is little difference in completed qso on
either mode.

In 6 months of operating WSJT I believe that all the qso I have completed
could have been completed on HSCW might just take 10 mins more.

Tony (G0GMS)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Goran ANDRIC,
S55OO.com
Sent: 15 August 2002 08:02
To: Hannu/OH6MAZ; Meteor Scatter mailing list
Subject: Re: [Meteor-Scatter] Perseids and operating procedures!

Hi all!

I agree that would be good to make some procedure for split CQ and here is
my suggestion. At least for EU standard...

CQ62 S50C CQ62 S50C -> which means that we listening on 144.362

and

CQ78 S50C CQ78 S50C -> We listen on on 144.378

Why this is better then CQ -H S50C and CQ H S50C or CQD8 and CQU8. It is
easier for every one to shift and same amount of data i guess.

Your opinions are vy welcome!

73 de Goran ANDRIC, S55OO.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hannu/OH6MAZ" <[email protected]>
To: "Meteor Scatter mailing list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: [Meteor-Scatter] Perseids and operating procedures!

> Hello all ping-jockeys!
>
> Perseids are over for this year and we'll have to settle for sporadic
rocks
> and/or wait for the next big one.
>
> General opinion tends to be that Perseids this year may not have been what
> was expected. Though on the other hand I was a bit surprised about the
> amount of stations in .370 and neighbourhood.
>
> There has been a lot of discussion and debate about what is the best and
> ultimate real meteorscatter operating mode. I myself will continue working
> them all (SSB/HSCW/WSJT) but I suspect that WSJT will take time from SSB,
> since I have found out I'm not very good on SSB. Also I tend to think that
> the really weak ones come better on HSCW.
>
> There has been lot of comparing operating practices (WSJT/SSB/HSCW). In
all
> these modes people tend to stick on the calling frequency, though most
> tranceivers now have vfo-knob that is quite easy to use. In HSCW there is
a
> practice where 144.100 is used only for calling and then both stations
move
> up to make the QSO. Unfortunately not all stations use this procedure. In
> SSB too many stations stick to 144.200 and in WSJT it was almost useless
to
> try to call CQ outside 144.370.
>
> There has been a suggestion that we should start using the same procedure
in
> WSJT than in CW to indicate the frequency shift. So CQA would mean +1kHz
up
> and CQE +5kHz up (How to indicate negative shifts?). But why should we use
> the letters, why not indicate the shift itself (CQ 2UP or CQ 3DWN)?
Whatever
> the way is, we should agree on the procedure and then advertize it in
local
> ham-magazines and web. Without shift the result this year was that a few
big
> guns ( or stations with good locations) seemed to dominate the bursts and
> the weak ones were left under them.
>
>
> There was another issue that I also would like to raise up. It seemed to
me,
> that many (nonexperienced?) stations wanted to make only fast and easy
qso:s
> causing lot of fuss on the band. What I mean is that when they heard a CQ
> they answered the proper way. OK, I heard them calling me and begun to
send
> calls+raport. After sending that for couple of periods I get a burst of
the
> same station forgetting me and calling CQ.  These guys have not understood
> that even if you don't hear another station for 5 minutes, he may still be
> there trying to make the QSO. Though I must confess that I spoiled one QSO
> myself thinking that the other end had already got my final RRR's and went
> downstairs for tea and sandwitches. After coming back to my radios I heard
> the other end still sending me RRR. 'Oooppss' I thought and sent a few
> periods of RRR73MAZ and the QSO was complete. Sorry!
>
> But all in all - MS is fun! It was great to make 1700km QSO with stations
> running only 20Wtts. Perseids brought me two new DXCC:s this year (GW and
> HB9) even if I had to go to work for monday. I did not manage to complete
> the almost 2200km HSCW sked, but at least we tried. I did not work a
single
> QSO on SSB this year. I'll look forward seeing you during weekends on
> sporadics and wish you gl and a lot of nice contacts via MS!
>
> Hannu/OH6MAZ
>
>
>  ---
>  Hannu Forsstr�m (OH6MAZ)
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