Jay, Lawrence has often shown nice signals on 26 kHz on his grabber, marked 4X4. Todd Roberts relayed some Yahoo VLF Group information Feb 3, 2011 indicating the transmitter might be in Bafa, Turkey but more certainly was somewhere in the Middle East. Apparently it has more recently been confirmed as being in Israel. -- 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL