[Lowfer] LF Lop Antennas [AKA Loop Antennas]
jrusgrove at comcast.net
jrusgrove at comcast.net
Tue Aug 26 06:21:18 EDT 2008
Chris
The 3586C model is probably the most convenient for this application since
it has BNC connectors as opposed to the 'funky' tiny telco connectors.
Tracking generator output is a levelled 0 dBm. When not being used in a test
equipment capacity it makes an excellent LF receiver.
Jay
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> I noticed that there are a few selective level meters available on
> eBay,
> a pair of 3586's and a 3746A. Does the 3746A provide a tracking signal?
> I
> saw in the eBay photos that there's a BNC connector on the rear labeled
> "tracking generator". Never understood what these level meters were used
> for, but if it can be used with my GR bridges here I might be inclined to
> acquire one. I think there's one on the shelf at a local junk yard.
>
> Chris
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
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> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:03 PM
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>
>> In agreement with John...
>>
>> I have an HP 4342A Q meter, and while it works well for certain tasks,
> it's
>> not that useful for others. Measuring capacitors and low Q ferrite
> inductors
>> (plus a variety of other tasks) is best done with a bridge - like the GR
>> 516C that we're using.
>>
>> Marrying the bridge to an HP 3586C selective level meter makes a real
>> nice
>> frequency agile setup. The tracking generator output serves as the
> generator
>> and the receiver is used as the detector. While not exactly 'portable' I
> do
>> lug the setup out to the transmit antenna from time to time. Wouldn't
> trade
>> that bridge for anything.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at w1tag.com>
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands"
>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] LF Lop Antennas [AKA Loop Antennas]
>>
>>
>> > Jay and I have impedance bridges that can measure these kinds of caps
>> > to
> 1
>> > pF, and series resistances to 0.1 ohms. But you'd have to pry our cold,
>> > dead hands from the bridges... <g>
>> >
>> > John A.
>> >
>> >
>> >> As I recall the Boonton instruction book describes a procedure which
>> >> is
>> >> probably better than nothing but any decent capacitor is going to have
> Q
>> >> which is much higher than that of the test coil.
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