[LOGic] LOGic forum

Thu May 17 10:15:32 EDT 2012

I've been with logic for 20 years...
LOGIC 9 runs flawlessly for me on a MAC! using the parallels software... 
just excellent, and a good improvement over Logic 8...

I have no idea what these guys are talking about... have they called Dennis? 
He got on the phone and come in remotely to fix what i'd screwed up ... you won't find
better support, if you take advantage of it. 

73, Warren W1GUD
On May 17, 2012, at 1:19 AM, James Meaney wrote:

> I have installed Logic 9. What a mistake this program is, After I 
> installed I went in tools and setup my rig and I get a error that 
> Logic.exe has incurred and error and is shutting down. This error come 
> up every time I start Logic 9. I have errors with Logic 8 but this I 
> cannot even get started. This programs should NEVER have been released. 
> What a total waste of money. Running Windows 7 64bit Intel I5. I guess I 
> just got a $89 friz be!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/15/2012 1:18 AM, Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO wrote:
>> Hank et al.,
>> 
>> Your post begs my original question of a few days ago, which remains
>> unanswered -- Is  v8 still being updated / bugfixed? If V9 is basically at
>> Alpha level (which is what I would call it, based on your description of its
>> architectural evolution, and as such, should not have been released to the
>> user base) -- then are known and reported problems in V8, the released
>> production version, being addressed, or are we just expected to live with
>> them until V9 is ready for its close-up? (Whenever that is?) And we are just
>> expected to have faith that the perpetually unfixed V8 bugs are being
>> addressed in V9, and will work... someday?
>> 
>> Now, I'm a computer old-timer, and I've always volunteered for Beta programs
>> whenever given the chance -- but IMO V9 isn't even really ready for Beta,
>> because it is still under active development. A Beta test is expected to
>> have a Release Candidate, a version of the entire product that is believed
>> to be complete and relatively bug-free based on the results of the Alpha
>> stage of testing, but of course is known not to be. The Beta volunteer user
>> base (not everyone cottons to the idea of testing imperfect software and
>> finding bugs) tests, details, and reports the remaining bugs, and they get
>> killed, one at a time and usually in triage fashion, with the highest
>> priority bugs addressed first. That's fine. But SUPPORT OF THE RELEASED
>> PRODUCTION CODE GOES ON during the Alpha and Beta stages of the next
>> version! Otherwise, the end user is left with production code (V8) that used
>> to be supported, but that isn't any more due to reassignment of
>> development/support resources to the new version in Alpha or Beta test --
>> which are known to be (a) incomplete or (b) imperfect vehicles,
>> respectively.
>> 
>> If I might be allowed to put it crudely, this situation blows big-time.
>> 
>> Dennis needs to clarify this.
>> 
>> Bill W5WVO
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hank Phillips
>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 16:37
>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic forum
>> 
>> When Microsoft notified the world in 2007 that Visual FoxPro would no longer
>> be supported, Dennis didn't really have a choice about continuing
>> development in that language.  Converting everything to .NET is not a
>> trivial undertaking, so I would recommend that we be patient while that
>> conversion process continues to take shape.
>> 
>> I purchased Logic9, installed it, and run it side by side with Logic8.
>> Logic8 continues to be my logger of choice for DXing, while I am waiting for
>> Logic9 to catch up.  My recommendation is to throw our support behind the
>> continuing development of Logic9, because it will be on a platform that has
>> a stated future in the Microsoft world, and just hang tight until the kinks
>> are worked out.
>> 
>> Vy 73,
>> Hank
>> AA4HP
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:21 AM
>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic forum
>> 
>> I need to throw my $0.02 in too.
>> 
>> I much prefer this email list to the "web based" forum alternative which I
>> guess is now the official site? Sending/receiving LOGIC-related info is much
>> easier using an "email approach" than posting on a forum (in my opinion).
>> 
>> I too started with LOGIC 4 and  have not gone beyond LOGIC 8. It meets 99%
>> of my needs, and yes, has a few quirks, which I live with. I won't go into
>> them because it's not worth the bother.
>> 
>> But my questions are regarding LOGIC 9...
>> a) For those of you have gone from V8 to V9, what do you gain? What do you
>> lose?
>> b) I have always had trouble when upgrading LOGIC versions, in that the
>> default databases (especially PREFIX and DXCC tables) do not meet my needs.
>> In the past I have had to spend a lot of time fixing errors produced by the
>> upgrades, rebuilding tables to suit my needs, etc. If I were to do a
>> standard install of LOGIC9, then import my log files, is there a way to
>> simply COPY my LOGIC8 directories and files on top of the new version? Which
>> files&  directories? What to avoid?
>> 
>> Glad to see there is still some life on this list!
>> 
>> 73
>> dan
>> k0dan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim
>> Sent: May 13, 2012 08:19 AM
>> To: logic at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] How to post to the LOGic forum
>> 
>> 
>> Post your questions here.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>>> I'm K1VU and I have been using LOGic since Ver. 3 or 4. That goes back a
>>> ways.
>>> 
>>> I really don't like this Forum method of interfacing with Dennis or other
>>> LOGic users !!!
>>> 
>>> I've always have issues with LOGic that I could always post to this list
>>> and get help.
>>> 
>>> I still have a lot of issues with LOGic9  BUT I  can' to seem to be able
>>> to make a post to the forum
>>> 
>>> It seems that I I have lot of questions that are not categorized in the
>>> Forum and I don't where to post them.
>>> 
>>> Anyway I played $90 for something that has created more problems that I
>>> had with LOGic8.
>>> 
>>> While LOGic9 has a few of the improvements that I always wanted, there are
>>> more problems created
>>> than we had with LOGic8.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Bob, K1VU
>>> 
>>> 
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