[KyARES] RE: [KYHAM] National Disaster Response Plan Needed?

[Fred Flowers]

You got that right.  In this case the locals blew it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Dodson" <ka4map at ispky.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [KyARES] RE: [KYHAM] National Disaster Response Plan Needed?


> >From all I have found in researching the events (I am using the Katrina
> mess as a backdrop now in doing the IS-700 classroom training), the
> local and state sat back and said, "We are pre-declared, let the feds
> deal with it". I watched as both the Mayor of New Orleans and the LA
> Governor both verbally confirmed this on CNN one day!  
> 
> As an EMA Director of 6 past Presidential Declarations, I can tell you
> that there is a form we fill out.  As with the way I have always
> encouraged amateurs to order aid, the local and state gov't should do
> the same. How much, what kind, when and where.  You can't just get on TV
> and scream, "Send me everything you got! I need help!"  
> 
> You ask for 1,000 National Guard troops for security, 10 Blackhawk (or
> what ever helicopters) if they need FLIR to locate warm bodies you say
> so, etc.
> You get what you ask for.  From all I can see, no one asked in the right
> way.    
> 
> I also agree with Tom, that likely, the military's idea of a PLAN is not
> the civilian idea of a PLAN. I can also guarantee you if you walk into
> any agency in the county you live in and ask WHO has actually read their
> county EOP cover to cover, they will look at you like you are insane in
> 9 out of 10 cases. Many may not even know there is one.    
> 
> I am sorely afraid that if we are not terribly lucky, the aftermath of
> these events will result in a knee jerk reaction and changes that will
> not fix the problems, but only make them worse.
> 
> We can only wait to see.
> 
> 73, 
> Ron, KA4MAP
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:kyham-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N4AOF
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:54 PM
> To: KyARES at yahoogroups.com; kyham at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [KyARES] RE: [KYHAM] National Disaster Response Plan
> Needed?
> 
> However the military suggestion that a plan is needed may have some
> validity 
> to it.  One shortcoming of the NRP (and the FRP before it) is that the
> plan 
> deliniates who is responsible and lays out a detailed process for the
> local 
> government to ask their state for help, for the state to ask the federal
> 
> government for help, and for the federal agencies to coordinate with
> each 
> other about who is supposed to help.  But nowhere in the NRP (or the
> FRP) is 
> there one single word about actually DOING anything.
> 
> According to the system mandated by the FRP and continued in the NRP,
> only 
> the state and local plans have to address any specific actions.  This is
> a 
> good system because it ensures that each local plan will address the 
> specific kinds of disaster that may strike their particular area; and
> the 
> disaster specific annexes of the state plan are basically a collection
> of 
> the corresponding annexes of the local plans with the state resources 
> allocated.
> 
> What this system fails to envision is a disaster where national level 
> resources are needed immediately (personally I am not convinced that
> federal 
> resources were needed "immediately" in Katrina, but that is an entirely 
> different discussion).
> 
> The difference between the military concept of a plan and the FEMA
> concept 
> of a plan is that when the military makes out a plan, they write down
> what 
> they need to DO, along with who does it, when, and how.  If the military
> had 
> planned a response to Katrina, there would have been a massive detailed
> plan 
> with hour-by-hour assignements (all of which would have totally ignored 
> state & local resources and priorities) and a complete list of
> everything 
> needed (no one would have read that plan either, except perhaps the one
> Army 
> Corps of Engineers captain who was tasked to write it).
> 
> 
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