[KYHAM] Re: BPL, Ham radio and the EOC

[Fred Flowers]

Y'ALL ARE MISSING THE POINT!!  WHEN ONE HAS NO FUEL, DIESEL IS A LOT EASER 
TO COME BY.  A HAND PUMP, A HOSE, A TANK, & A BOLT CUTTER, WILL GET ONE 
DIESEL FUEL, WHEN THE BROWN STUFF HITS THE FAN.  THE SAME TRICK WITH PROPANE 
MAY GET YOU BLOWN INTO THE NEXT COUNTY.

I much prefer propane for the normal run of the mill stand by generator 
(especially if I have to maintain it) for power failures.  However we are 
talking about earthquakes.  Power will be off over a wide spread area.  No 
power, no way to pump propane.  I guess one could steal a propane truck.  If 
it is loaded.  BTW, let me know when you load the 500 gallon tank with your 
backhoe.  I want to be in the other end of the state.  EMS will be to busy, 
with earthquake victims, to respond to your crisp butt.  A propane tank is a 
bomb that hasn't gone off....yet.  It should be treated as such.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blake Bowers" <bbowers at townsqr.com>
To: "Fred Flowers" <fred_flowers at bellsouth.net>; "N4AOF" <n4aof at arrl.net>; 
<kyham at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [KYHAM] Re: BPL, Ham radio and the EOC


> Diesel generators will not run without fuel also.
>
> I have run propane generators with the tank
> off my barbcue....Not for long mind you, but,
> everyone has a gas grill.... Or 100 gallon tanks
> run even better.
>
> I imagine you could pull a 500 gallon tank using
> a backhoe onto a trailer and move it that way too.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Flowers" <fred_flowers at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Blake Bowers" <bbowers at townsqr.com>; "N4AOF" <n4aof at arrl.net>; 
> <kyham at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [KYHAM] Re: BPL, Ham radio and the EOC
>
>
>> The point being make is, Propane generators will not run with no fuel. 
>> If the brown stuff hits the fan, I doubt that you can get the propane co. 
>> to deliver fuel.  If one needs diesel all one needs is a hand pump, hose 
>> & a tank.  A pair a bolt cutters would be handy also.
>>
>> I wouldn't have anything else but propane at a tower site for short term 
>> outages.  Long term wide spread outages call for diesel.
>>
>> Do you have any tower sites in the BG area?
>>
>> Fred Flowers
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Blake Bowers" <bbowers at townsqr.com>
>> To: "N4AOF" <n4aof at arrl.net>; <kyham at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [KYHAM] Re: BPL, Ham radio and the EOC
>>
>>
>>> Propane has a number of advantages including the
>>> reliabilty of the fuel.   I have bought over 100
>>> telecommunications sites with propane gensets,
>>> and all but one fired first time after years of no use.  The one that 
>>> did not fire up had a problem
>>> with the engine controller.
>>>
>>> Out of the 30 or so diesel sites, over 2 years inactive, almost all 
>>> required some level of work,
>>> or repeated attempts, to get them to fire up.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> For public safety
>>>>> and health service standby, diesel sets are the way to
>>>>> go, since a two people with a 4 wheel drive truck or
>>>>> even on foot can procure and transport diesel fuel
>>>>> with ease compared to the specialized methods needed
>>>>> with propane.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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