[Kenwood] TS-940S USB-LSB

Sat Jan 3 23:37:01 EST 2009

Hi Bill,

Most of the formulations of deOxit that I bought are not in spray cans, so I don't get the foamy-ness that you mentioned. Could it be that the surfaces you are spraying it onto ( I think you said automotive) are so contaminated that the chemical cleaning action of the deOxit is actually so active that it foams? I've had this happen when I use bicarbonate of soda solution to clean up around lead-acid batteries (of course I'm careful....).

I would love it if someone could explain the chemistry behind both classes of products, so I could better choose which is appropriate for what situations. All the documentation on the deOxit site is very consumer-oriented, so I'm still not sure when to use "Gold" and when to use "Shield". My guess is that all the products have something that is reactive with common metalic oxides, and some other molecule that will bond with non-oxidized metallic surfaces, and some kind of lubricant that disperses over the surface to block out atmospheric air. If this is true, I'd bet the different formulations just have different proportions of the various components.

Any chemists here who can enlighten us?

-avi 4X6UA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill VanOrden K7BVO 
  To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 21:44
  Subject: RE: [Kenwood] TS-940S USB-LSB

  I too would like some real comparisons on the two materials.

  I have both and the DeOxit stuff is a foamy treatment that leaves a sticky film on anything it is sprayed on. I used it on a  couple of contacts and then cleaned it off because of the consistency of the material.  The Stabilant is a thin liquid, not a coating.

  I have problems with the thick coating, to me it is like using a grease on a contact, it may keep water and corrosion out, but at what sacrifice to contact integrity.  In my personal and professional lives I have used the stabilant and found it to cure and prevent contact related problems.  

  Your mileage will vary.

  Beevo (aka Bill VanOrden)  K7BVO

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  From: Avi - Modi'im Orchards [mailto:tiavi at bezeqint.net] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:24 PM
  To: Bill VanOrden K7BVO; kenwood at mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Kenwood] TS-940S USB-LSB

  Does anyone have comparative, anecdotal experience with using Stabilant as opposed to the deOxit line of products, of which I've just laid in what I hope is a lifetime supply, considering their prices!

  -avi 4X6UA

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Bill VanOrden K7BVO 

    To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net 

    Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 03:00

    Subject: RE: [Kenwood] TS-940S USB-LSB

    I would also recommend using this when you do the "Unplug/Plug 'n' Play:  http://www.stabilant.com/llsting.htm 

    http://www.stabilant.com/revrw04h.htm 

    As an automotive electrical and on board computer diagnostician for the last 30+ years, I have been using it for the last 9-10 years with extreme success!  It is especially helpful on tin plated connectors.

    Beevo (aka Bill VanOrden)  K7BVO

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    From: kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WBØGZR Biker DaddyDawg
    Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:55 PM
    To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
    Subject: [Kenwood] TS-940S USB-LSB

    I want to thank John @ LPC Wireless for helping with my USB & LSB trouble on my TS-940S. He was the only one that knew how to fix it. It turned out to be the Digital A board. Unplugging each plug then plugging them all back in fixed it. Also I found out it fix the SSB Slope Turn control which was to be my next fix so got 2 in 1. 

    Thanks John & 73's Rick WBØGZR

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