[Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?

[Keith V]

I' outta here along with Cliff.  Way too much junk.

Van,
KL7TDZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cyrus Turner" <w5dxe at hotmail.com>
To: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?


> Really!!
> I agree with Clif. Where is the reflector moderator? I thought this 
> reflector dealt with subject matter retaining to Kenwood amateur products 
> and Kenwood amateur products alone. Not the politics of Pros and Cons of 
> CW. Let's keep non KW subject matter off the reflector and respond to each 
> other directly.This isn't a public soap box guys. There. That's my 2 cents 
> worth.
> Cy/W5DXE
>
>>From: "Clif Holland" <clif at avvid.com>
>>To: "KU4YP" <ku4yp at verizon.net>, "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>>CC: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
>>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
>>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:37:33 -0600
>>
>>I'm outa here, this isn't a CW discussion group.
>>
>>Clif Holland, KA5IPF
>>www.avvid.com
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "KU4YP" <ku4yp at verizon.net>
>>To: "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>>Cc: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:14 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
>>
>>
>>>agreed and well said OM.
>>>
>>>73 KU4YP
>>>
>>>Leigh S. Jones wrote:
>>>>This debate has howled on so long that I guess I'd be doing
>>>>amateur radio a disservice if I didn't add my comments.
>>>>
>>>>First, I need to make it very clear that I hold in low regard
>>>>anyone who uses language such as "outdated" to describe
>>>>Morse code.  The truth is very simple.  If everyone had the
>>>>skill needed to communicate in Morse code, then no one
>>>>would ever describe the code as "outdated".  The code
>>>>may, some day, perhaps within this century, become
>>>>outdated.  "Outdated" is an excuse -- a slander.  When someone calls the 
>>>>code outdated, he means that he, personally, does not possess the skill 
>>>>needed to communicate in the code.  He issues the false claim that
>>>>he is more modern than the code, thus he is above it.
>>>>The code can only be outdated when there is nothing to
>>>>be gained by its use by anyone.
>>>>
>>>>I see the relationship between amateur radio and the code in a different 
>>>>light.  To me, the code is like instrumental music.  One can learn to 
>>>>sing and to make music without instruments.  Song in its purest form is 
>>>>a
>>>>thing of beauty, but the world doesn't need to be limited
>>>>to acappella song.  There can also be instrumental music.
>>>>Amateur Radio is the grandeur of such music.  Some
>>>>will only sing, while others will gain the skills needed to
>>>>make music with an instrument.
>>>>
>>>>I also believe in separate subbands for the modes, really as a 
>>>>convenience but also for more practical reasons.
>>>>The modes are best kept apart.  It would take a very long time to 
>>>>explain why, and one major idea per post
>>>>is a sensible plan.
>>>>
>>>>KR6X
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
>>>>To: <k4pdm at yahoo.com>; <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--- Paul Manuel <k4pdm at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To my ear, the novice CW bands are little-used (and
>>>>>>should be refarmed
>>>>>
>>>>>No, the technician license should be eliminated, and
>>>>>the novice license brought back as the point of entry
>>>>>into amateur radio.
>>>>>
>>>>>73s John NE0P
>>>>>
>>>>
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