[Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?

[Cyrus Turner]

Really!!
I agree with Clif. Where is the reflector moderator? I thought this 
reflector dealt with subject matter retaining to Kenwood amateur products 
and Kenwood amateur products alone. Not the politics of Pros and Cons of CW. 
Let's keep non KW subject matter off the reflector and respond to each other 
directly.This isn't a public soap box guys. There. That's my 2 cents worth.
Cy/W5DXE

>From: "Clif Holland" <clif at avvid.com>
>To: "KU4YP" <ku4yp at verizon.net>, "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>CC: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:37:33 -0600
>
>I'm outa here, this isn't a CW discussion group.
>
>Clif Holland, KA5IPF
>www.avvid.com
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "KU4YP" <ku4yp at verizon.net>
>To: "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
>Cc: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
>
>
>>agreed and well said OM.
>>
>>73 KU4YP
>>
>>Leigh S. Jones wrote:
>>>This debate has howled on so long that I guess I'd be doing
>>>amateur radio a disservice if I didn't add my comments.
>>>
>>>First, I need to make it very clear that I hold in low regard
>>>anyone who uses language such as "outdated" to describe
>>>Morse code.  The truth is very simple.  If everyone had the
>>>skill needed to communicate in Morse code, then no one
>>>would ever describe the code as "outdated".  The code
>>>may, some day, perhaps within this century, become
>>>outdated.  "Outdated" is an excuse -- a slander.  When someone calls the 
>>>code outdated, he means that he, personally, does not possess the skill 
>>>needed to communicate in the code.  He issues the false claim that
>>>he is more modern than the code, thus he is above it.
>>>The code can only be outdated when there is nothing to
>>>be gained by its use by anyone.
>>>
>>>I see the relationship between amateur radio and the code in a different 
>>>light.  To me, the code is like instrumental music.  One can learn to 
>>>sing and to make music without instruments.  Song in its purest form is a
>>>thing of beauty, but the world doesn't need to be limited
>>>to acappella song.  There can also be instrumental music.
>>>Amateur Radio is the grandeur of such music.  Some
>>>will only sing, while others will gain the skills needed to
>>>make music with an instrument.
>>>
>>>I also believe in separate subbands for the modes, really as a 
>>>convenience but also for more practical reasons.
>>>The modes are best kept apart.  It would take a very long time to explain 
>>>why, and one major idea per post
>>>is a sensible plan.
>>>
>>>KR6X
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
>>>To: <k4pdm at yahoo.com>; <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--- Paul Manuel <k4pdm at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>To my ear, the novice CW bands are little-used (and
>>>>>should be refarmed
>>>>
>>>>No, the technician license should be eliminated, and
>>>>the novice license brought back as the point of entry
>>>>into amateur radio.
>>>>
>>>>73s John NE0P
>>>>
>>>
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