[Kenwood] BPL

[Dan Cotsirilos]

the rules are there are no rules. if it involves big business or the 
government the people stand no chance of winning in court.

WHEN THE PEOPLE STOP USING THE GOV TO CONTROL THE CORPS THEN THE CORPS WILL
USE THE GOV TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clark Savage Turner" <csturner at kcbx.net>
To: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj at mc.net>
Cc: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] BPL


>I am glad we're thinking about how to help out our hobby.
>
> Having been involved in the law, it is simple to talk about going to Court 
> and getting injunctions, but we'd need legal (and for the injunction, 
> recognizable equitable) grounds for such a thing.  I am not very familiar 
> with that area of the law, but in recent years, Congress and state 
> legislatures have relaxed ethics rules and, in general, made such legal 
> challenges very difficult.  Trying to sue the government for its actions 
> is just plain difficult.  And its expensive (and the attorney's fees are 
> not the hard part, the government attorneys will do all they can legally 
> do to delay or crush the case, so gathering evidence becomes very 
> expensive...)
>
> If anyone wants to actually explore this route, they need to do some 
> serious homework.  I suspect the ARRL attorney has thought of such things.
>
> And, as someone else mentioned, we have no right to amateur radio.  It is 
> a privilege.  If Congress wanted to do away with us, they could do it. 
> There is a delicate political balance to be maintained as Cell phones and 
> the Internet make us look like old technology to the general public (not 
> true, but certainly an impression of many in the public!)
>
> Clark
> WA3JPG
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Rob Atkinson, K5UJ wrote:
>
>> Well, for one thing, it would take a lot of money to mount a successful
>> court challenge.  On 15 Oct 2004 at 9:32, k5uj at mc.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> both candidates probably know nothing about the technical problems of
>>>> BPL--they are just repeating what aids have told them to say to score
>>>> points, because it sounds good to the average joe.  Their assistants
>> have
>>>> probably been listening to Michael Powell.  No engineers in the whole
>>>> bunch.  this whole problem is just a massive result of idiot lawyers 
>>>> and
>>>> politics driving something that belongs in the realm of science and
>>>> engineering.  it is going to take a court challenge, which i predicted
>>>> about 2 years ago.  ARRL should go to court and get the whole decision
>>>> overturned based on Powell's refusal to recuse himself from the vote.
>> He
>>>> has been attending these BPL industry demonstrations and blatantly
>>>> championing their cause, an incredible conflict of interest.
>>>>
>>>> rob/k5uj
>>>
>>> WHY oh WHY hasn't ARRL hauled his butt into COURT?
>>>
>>> He needs to be slapped with an injunction at least.
>>> If he was a President he would be impeached for this!
>
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