FW: [Kenwood] BPL

Jay Eimer ad5pe at familynet.net
Sat Oct 16 00:14:09 EDT 2004


That's right.  The story fed to the public is (1) with DSL you have to
live close to the switching center.  (2) with cable they have to run the
coax, which is expensive.  (3) with wireless you have to buy (or worse,
rent!) a radio receiver, and put up a (heard this one before?) big, ugly
antenna.  But (4) the power lines already come right to your house!
Isn't that neat!

But they skip the amps, repeaters, bypasses over step-down transformers
(all MORE expensive than the other options, BTW) and then claim it's
CHEAPER?  Sorry, economically BPL only makes sense in relatively dense
areas (NOT a rural solution) and then only if it is subsidized by the
electricity ratepayers.

FYI, that subsidy is illegal in many states, regulated in others by
their corporation or public utility commissions.  Where it's not, it is
something the shareholders might like to "know about".

And finally, if we can "hear" BPL, what makes you think the hackers
can't - it is about as secure as an HF transmission during good
propagation conditions (1/2 the world can hear every word you type).

Fight this one through the utility regulators (illegal and or unjust
subsidy - making inner city poor pay for suburban rich folks broadband)
and through privacy rights groups.

And of course, tell your congresscritters this.  Frequently.
If they're Democrats, they'll love to go after a "shady corporation".
If they're Republicans, they'll love to go after "corrupt regulators".
Either way, your voice carries more weight.

Jay
AD5PE

-----Original Message-----
From: kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ed Swiderski
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 07:33
To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: FW: [Kenwood] BPL


    You would think they would be more interested in looking into
wirless access. Using the power lines just seems to me like antiquated
technology. But it sounds good to the masses. Guess that's why I'll
never make it in politics. I make to much sense.

Ed KU4BP

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael E. Rees" <docmickey at outdrs.net>
To: <bcarling at cfl.rr.com>; <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: FW: [Kenwood] BPL


That isn't all.  Yesterday John Kerry was here in Las Vegas for the AARP
convention.  When asked about BPL, John Kerry said he is in favor of
BPL. He just said he supports BPL as a means of getting the internet to
rural areas so kids can have a better education and wants to push its
installation and use.  The point is he wants to push BPL.

KD7CVJ
Mike

HMC(SW)
USN Retired


-----Original Message-----
From: kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Carling
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:07 AM
To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: FW: [Kenwood] BPL

BPL is NOT the greatest threat to HF radio for hams
at present. WINLINK is a far greater threat, and ARRL is endorsing it.

Wait until one of these unattended high power digital
pests starts interfering with your QSO and you will understand.

On 15 Oct 2004 at 2:30, Daniel Seagraves wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Mort Arditti wrote:
>
> > Here is a thought. Use maximum legal CW power,  use a directional 
> > antenna and aim at the power lines. If the lines are close, it is
better.
> > Will this  cause interference to BPL? I don't know.
> > If the BPL supporters do not care about us, why should we care about

> > them. Besides, it could be fun.
>
> We can't cause deliberate interference. If the FCC finds out, you'll 
> lose your ticket, and you can bet the BPL users will gripe about you 
> whether you interfere with them or not.
>
> The only way we're going to continue to use HF as we do now is to come

> up with some whiz-bang error correction that can get a signal through 
> S9+30 of noise. The war is over, we lost, we have to deal with this. 
> We can't just keep doing what we've always done and expect things to 
> never change. It's just like the restrictions and changes made to 
> pilots after 9-11. They have had to put up with major changes - They 
> used to be able to cruize around and just look at the scenery without 
> a "reason" to fly. They used to be able to invite kids up to the 
> flight deck if they wanted to. Times have changed, and the past is 
> gone forever. It doesn't matter if the change is for the better or 
> not, we have to deal with it... or die.
>
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