[KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC

don devins wd0bwm1 at swbell.net
Thu Jun 25 10:23:09 EDT 2009 

Anybody notice the date of this email from Mike...it says September 8, 2009.  Maybe I've been in a coma for 3 months.


 

Don Devins 
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--- On Tue, 9/8/09, MCrabtree <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com> wrote:


From: MCrabtree <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
To: "kcdxcforfun" <kcdxcforfun at byrg.net>, "KCDXC" <KCDXC at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 9:28 AM


At the time,  I said "No" because we had been offered up to $2000 seed money 
from K4SX to start the project!! We had not even investigated the cost of 
such a project at the time of informational presentation at the last club 
meeting.
I really had no idea whether  the club was interested in such a project when 
I spoke at the meeting.

Since then, I was told by K4SX the boys in MN have already sold enough 
tickets to cover their costs and it is still 7 weeks away!!


Now that several interested club members have held a meeting and the the 
whole project  really seems  do able, I have changed my mind on the matter. 
It was great to see club members working TOGETHER in a friendly and easy 
going envirnoment, the way a club should!!

I can't think of a better way for the KCDXC to receive positive publicity 
and bring some really highly respected people to our own area. It is a 
proposed DX convention and we are a DX CLUB!


Regardless of what my wife says,   I can change my mind or opinion on a 
topic when I become more informed.

73, to all,
AB0X

PS: One other topic I have seen recently mentioned on the reflector is that 
only the good  DX programs can be seen at Dayton. This not true by any 
means. I used to attend the Ham Com Convention in Dallas every year as I had 
relatives who live there. I often saw better and more informative DX 
programs at this convention than I did at Dayton in the same year. After the 
first Ducie island DXpedition Tom Christian spoke at Ham Com and I had the 
opportunity to sit down with him and talk at length about numerous DX items 
as well as  some of the history of his island.

There's a lot to be said for the small venue environment at a convention.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>; "Lee" <lee at crcltd.com>
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC



Let's be clear-I'm not against W0DXCC and wish it to be successful, but 
strongly against KCDXC funds to be used to organize this financially 
dangerous event. W0DXCC can and shall be pretty much independent 
organization. Just find right people. Actually limiting organization of this 
event mostly to KCDXC is will work against it in many ways. That is why I 
think another reflector need to be created, advertised to as many W0 clubs 
and be used for event organization and discussion. Bring some talent from 
ALL W0 clubs! Separate meetings as well for all interested people.

-I have asked Mike during his W0DXCC presentation if KCDXC funds will be 
used and he said 'No' in front of everyone. So Lee, don't lie.
-Club did not vote for W0DXCC endorsement or support-it was FYI only info.
-There are no info provided on how profitable previous events were, just a 
word 'Yes' from someone who has no idea. Please provide info.
-Have no info on how much money is needed were money are planned to come 
from and what it will be spend on. Please provide info.
-Also no info on how money will be made. Not the way any business should be 
run. Please provide info.


--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Lee <lee at crcltd.com> wrote:

> From: Lee <lee at crcltd.com>
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
> To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 4:02 PM
>
> All Ya'll,
> AK> Guys,
> AK> A lot of promo talk, but until now we all
> heard only one
> AK> voice talking about W0DXCC-and most likely it will
> not work like
> AK> that, isn't obvious? That was a tradition of the
> W0DXCC until now,
> AK> to have three equal co-chairs and no single self
> claimed chair.
> AK> Keep it that way, since it's W0 regional activity
> and not a club.
> AK> For now I would propose AC0C and AC0KN as a
> co-chairs. May be
> AK> extended to five members and work as a W0DXCC
> committee?
> Someone has to be in charge, I volunteered because the
> president was
> not interested in being a part of this meeting. I would be
> happy to be
> co-chair with both of them. Don't you think you should ask
> them first?
> AK> Also-one observation and reminder-W0DXCC need
> to be
> AK> separate from KCDXC-financially and
> organizationally. W0DXCC need
> AK> to include all clubs of the organizing area as well
> (All KC clubs)
> AK> in order to organize something meaningful, not
> become just another
> AK> extended 'new' KCDXC club meeting.
> Bad idea. This is a DX event and not necessarily one for
> the "Shack on
> the Belt" bunch.
> AK> Another W0DXCC (byrg?) reflector should be
> created to cover
> AK> W0DXCC activities, with involvement of all W0
> hams. Whoever is
> AK> interested in this activity need to subscribe-that
> will be going
> AK> on for a year! Same applies to the WEB-no KCDXC WEB
> need to be
> AK> dedicated to this activity. I know that not all
> KCDXC members want
> AK> to be involved. Please create W0DXCC reflector in
> next 10 days or
> AK> so and try not to use official KCDXC reflector in
> the future.
> We have a reflector that most members are on and to not
> keep it in the
> open for all members to observe is not proper.
> AK> We have said at last meeting that "NO" KCDXC
> finances will
> AK> be involved and I will keep it that way. KCDXC may
> endorse
> AK> W0DXCC...but that depends on the future
> developments. No KCDXC
> AK> finances at any point though.
> YOU have said it not we the club members.
> AK> Proposed program at this point is no more than
> repeat of the
> AK> 5 month of the KCDXC meetings. Is it really what
> W0DXCC will be
> AK> about? Bring some talent from ALL W0 clubs+ and some
> really new
> AK> ideas.
> OK, how are you going to help in this area?
> AK> We will not dedicate all future meetings
> of the KCDXC to
> AK> W0DXCC activities-W0 will have to have other place
> and meetings.
> AK> It is obvious that not all members are interested
> in
> AK> participating.
> AK> Lee, please find another time and place for
> the W0DXCC
> AK> meetings. First Saturday of the month at 1200 at
> Perkins sounds
> AK> like a plan for now.
> We should ask the members this question, you cannot speak
> for all or
> any of the members.
> AK> Club will take care on KCDXC treasurer
> position in working
> AK> order, thanks for the suggestion though. I
> officially did not hear
> AK> from Jeff yet, I think.
> Jeff resigned in an e-mail that most of read. Now it is
> time for a vote
> to make it legal according to the constitution.
> AK> Mike have said few times that he don't want to
> be treasurer
> AK> and would like to do newsletter only. That is how
> Jeff's
> AK> nomination came along. Will try to meet Mikes
> request.
>
> And, I ask again, how is WRTC involved as a sponsor of the
> KCDXC
> Pileup Contest? Did we receive commission from the sale of
> Tee Shirts?
> If so, how much?
>
> I am getting so tired of this, everything is a battle with
> you.
>
> Lee, K0LW
>
>
>
>
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