[K3PZN-List] Ready to roll for FD (Field Day Triplexer loan available from WX3B)

Peter Morton mortonph at comcast.net
Wed Jun 24 17:24:06 EDT 2015


We should have a plan for siting before Ray sets up the rocket 
launcher.  Particularly, siting should be decided for 20-meter CW and 
20-meter SSB stations.  We don't want a repeat of the past siting 
problems on 20-meters.  These stations should be sited 500 to 1000 feet 
apart.  If they are looking west or east-west, they should be oriented 
north-south of each other.

Andy-

The only thing that has changed since the CCARC meeting is NY3A setting 
up a CW station on 20 meters and any other band available for CW.  I 
think we still need the 40/15 meter CW/SSB station you were planning to 
set up.

N3SB indicated he wanted to bring his Honda 2KW generator.  So we should 
have NY3A's 1KW, CCARC's two 2KW, Ray's RV generator, and N3SB's 2KW for 
a total of 5 generators.  That should be  more than needed and allow 
stations to separated well.

Speaking of N3SB, we haven't heard from him for a while.  Is he coming 
to FD?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/24/2015 4:45 PM, Andy Leeds wrote:
> Wow, this isn't even remotely close to what was discussed at the 
> meeting (that's what I get for spending a week out of the country). 
> The discussion there ended on a 3 station setup with an option to add 
> a 4th with the Ab577. Since this has run off on its own I'll back out 
> of captaining one of the stations (we've got plenty of people setting 
> one up at this point so I don't need to spend tonight ripping my shack 
> apart). I will bring the following out on Saturday AM:
> -2 x 2kw generators
> -ac power cords
> -gas cans
> -coax
> -band filters
>
> Andy
>
> On 6/24/2015 2:43 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List wrote:
>> Pete
>> I am confident that CW is using one or two K3's.
>>
>> I can imagine that Ray/Kerri are thrilled with whatever rig is loaned 
>> them.  Not that I want to influence the decision, the K3 is smaller 
>> to carry than the Yaesu and has lower phase noise.
>> (I myself enjoy all these rigs folk are bringing, but some are better 
>> citizens of the spectrum than others in close proximity).
>>
>>   Someone at FD will have to manage spectrum in a friendly enough way 
>> for the the multi-band stations (CW, digital and the 40/15 SSB).  
>> Opportunity: we can move 20m SSB to 10m whenever there is 
>> propagation, as I don't remember anyone covering this.
>>
>> This may not be the year to locate 2 or 3 SSB rigs in one spot -- 
>> given that Ray/Kerri may QRT at a moment's notice.  Otherwise Jim's 
>> kind offer is interesting.
>>
>> CUL Curt
>>
>>
>>       On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:46 PM, Peter Morton 
>> <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   If simultaneous co-band operation, CW and SSB, is desired on 20 
>> meters,
>> I can bring a K3/P3 in lieu of the FTdx3000.  What rig is being used for
>> CW on 20 meters?
>>
>> Might bring both so a comparison can be made.  Results would be 
>> interesting!
>>
>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>
>> On 6/24/2015 12:47 PM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
>>> Dear CCARCers,
>>> If you would like to turn Ray/Kerri's tribander into (3) separate 
>>> beams, I am happy to supply the triplexer to do so.
>>> You will need a bandpass filter for 10, 15 & 20 simultaneously and 
>>> short coax jumpers that go from the triplexer, to the band pass 
>>> filter, to the radio of your choice.  Lots of coax jumpers!!
>>> We did this with WX3B, K1RH and K3WI a few years ago.  There was 
>>> zero interference between the 3 stations on the same antenna; in 
>>> fact the only interference recorded at our site was from the 20m SSB 
>>> position which interfered with us on 20cw due to spacing that was 
>>> too close, and the FTDX-3000 which is known to generate measurable 
>>> phase noise.  If you can put 500 feet between 20cw and 20ssb, and do 
>>> not beam through the CW station, that problem should not be 
>>> repeated.  This is one easy way to get a big signal on 3 HF bands at 
>>> once!  If there is any interest, please email me.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Jim  WX3B      From: Curt Milton via K3PZN-List 
>>> <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>>    To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club 
>>> <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>; Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com>
>>>    Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM
>>>    Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Ready to roll for FD
>>>
>>> Well don't coordinate with Curt ... I will be around some, but not 
>>> taking a huge role this year.
>>>
>>> Of course they will pointing the beam west.  Find at spot at least 
>>> 500 feet or more from where Steve * 2 will be doing CW -- and 
>>> preferably not aimed directly at them.
>>>
>>> Then hopefully HF digital will set up with similar distance to both 
>>> CW and 20m SSB.
>>>
>>> As you can imagine, the other phone ops would be wise to move into 
>>> Ray/Kerri's general neighborhood !  This phone community needs to 
>>> have enough room to support both 40 and 80 m radiators.  I myself 
>>> would put these onto the same mast -- as we have Dunestar filters to 
>>> provide extra margin - and the rig filters are almost good enough to 
>>> function on their own (a K2 and FT950 or FT3000 did just fine when 
>>> they were on different bands.  (Jim and Rob were even going to 
>>> trying sharing a beam with a triplexer - but I am not so brave 
>>> without a lot of patient testing!  I honestly don't suggest this.  )
>>>
>>> This is the extent of my 'coordination' -- 6A will need some degree 
>>> of thoughtful placement.
>>>
>>> Hopefully 6m is at least as good as it was last evening (after the 
>>> storm worked some DM grids out west) - and maybe with all the extra 
>>> activity 144 MHz will have some E-skip.
>>> CUL Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:30 AM, Peter Morton 
>>> <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    Ray-
>>>
>>> You may want to coordinate with Mike [N3VOP] and Curt [WB8YYY] before
>>> setting up your rocket launcher.  They are concerned about locating and
>>> orienting antennas to minimize interference.
>>>
>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>
>>> On 6/22/2015 8:11 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>> yea!!!!  we might go up friday night and set up and spend the night
>>>> there get a head start on the morning
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net
>>>> <mailto:mortonph at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        Ray & Kerri-
>>>>
>>>>        FTdx3000 ready to go.  Got my old laptop working, too. 
>>>> Installed
>>>>        N1MM Logger Plus.  I'll bring everything.  See you Saturday.
>>>>
>>>>        -Pete, W3GVX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
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