[K3PZN-List] Who is the resident computer expert of the club ??
Anthony Comulada
comulada at verizon.net
Wed Jan 6 06:25:08 EST 2010
Sean,
What flavor/version of Linux are you using and how old is the pc/bios
you are using? I looked up your error and it seems there's some sort of
a kernel bug going around that is giving this same drive error.
It seems as though the system is not shutting down properly and the
kernel is trying to halt the IDE channel twice and this is causing a
conflict thus confusing the kernel and never really shutting down all
the way.
Here's a link I found that may be of some help...
This is the link to the main thread on the Ubuntu forums:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/193125
This is an external link from one of the posts:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11994
It's worth a shot to look into this (even if it's not the solution for
your issue).
Anthony, KB3RJH
Ubuntu Release 8.10 (Intrepid)
Kernel Linux 2.6.27-16 (Generic)
Gnome 2.24.1
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 23:11 -0500, Sean Shaffer wrote:
> Progress Report:
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>
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> Old drive was not working because the bios was auto-adjusting to no drive for booting.
>
> So new drive was not detected and then when I put old drive back in the bios wasn't set for it.
>
> Not sure why bios won't adjust back when a good drive is installed but once the HD is auto-removed from boot order that how it remains.
>
>
>
> I can't turn off LAN booting but I can turn off that "position".
>
> Weird setup not sure how common that is but you don't enable/disable a device but rather the position in the boot order.
>
> So I only have the first three positions set (Floppy,CDROM,HD) and the last position is disabled.
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>
>
> So what I find is that the old drive works.
>
> The new one doesn't.
>
> And on shutdown with the old drive, Linux reports that it "cannot iterate the IDE device: No such file or directory"
>
> Any other Linux users ? What does that mean ?
>
>
> I may take it back tommorrow but would like to know if may happen again before I bring a replacement home.
>
> (Picked this up local in Staples.)
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 19:03:00 -0800
> > From: ke3fl at yahoo.com
> > To: comulada at verizon.net; k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Who is the resident computer expert of the club ??
> >
> > Try the known good cable, - good idea.
> >
> > "I'd say the drive has gone south but" - If neither HD works it is highly unlikely that both died at the same time, and one while it was not even being used!
> >
> > pk
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Anthony Comulada <comulada at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Anthony Comulada <comulada at verizon.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Who is the resident computer expert of the club ??
> > > To: "Carroll County Amateur Radio Club" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:44 PM
> > > Try a different IDE/sata cable (ie
> > > the one from the other IDE/sata
> > > channel that still working). Try to put the drive(s) in the
> > > second
> > > IDE/sata channel and see if the 2nd channel recognizes a
> > > drive is in
> > > there. The other step you should probably take is to verify
> > > the drives
> > > on a known working systemboard. Or you could take the
> > > drives to a
> > > friends house and try it out on their computer... I have an
> > > external USB
> > > enclosure that comes in handy for that kind of stuff.
> > >
> > > With out looking at it, I'd say the drive has gone south
> > > but, the IDE
> > > could be bad or both...it's not uncommon for drives to
> > > expire early in
> > > life... It's got to be one or the other.
> > >
> > > Anthony, KB3RJH
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 19:40 -0500, Sean Shaffer wrote:
> > > > I'll have to check the bios again.
> > > >
> > > > The first time I checked it did not detect the IDE
> > > drive (listed as none)
> > > >
> > > > But I forgot to look at the boot order (since it
> > > didn't list an IDE at all).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The USB drive is not connected.
> > > >
> > > > I removed all peripherials but monitor, keyboard and
> > > mouse
> > > > (mouse is usb though if that matters)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In answer to Phil, after the 500GB drive was not
> > > detected I tried the
> > > >
> > > > original 30GB with the same result.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And Steve's email reminded me that I hadn't checked
> > > the boot order
> > > >
> > > > (but the BIOS does not detect either drive now?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This bios, I don't think, won't let me turn off the
> > > PXE boot I can only
> > > >
> > > > place it in the last order position. Unless
> > > there a keystroke not listed
> > > >
> > > > that lets me disable.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I currently have the original 30GB drive in it I'll
> > > check bios options and
> > > >
> > > > boot order again.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 19:05:27 -0500
> > > > > From: wo3l at comcast.net
> > > > > To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Who is the resident
> > > computer expert of the club ??
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st thing is to pull the drive you installed
> > > today and make sure it
> > > > > still boots off the internal disk.
> > > > >
> > > > > The USB disk should be hotplug unless something
> > > very strange is going
> > > > > on, so with the system booted connect that device
> > > and make sure the OS
> > > > > sees it and things are OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > To work out the boot issues check the BIOS boot
> > > order and see if it
> > > > > added the new USB device to the top causing the
> > > SATA or IDE drive to
> > > > > fall off the bottom of the list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/5/2010 18:43, Sean Shaffer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may have done something stupid but can't
> > > quite tell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may need another pair of eyes on
> > > something.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I installed a 500GB hard drive into an old
> > > PC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (not quite that old, 2003-ish maybe).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All was well, I copied my data to it and
> > > only had to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fix the bootloader.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a week it worked without issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Today I had everything turned off, plugged
> > > it all into
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a new surge protector, plugged in a second
> > > usb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > external drive and turned it all back on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On reboot all I get is the PXE net boot
> > > option and a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > message that no boot device is found and I
> > > should
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the cables.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried 3 IDE cables and 2 power cables, I
> > > cannot get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the IDE drives (either the new one or the
> > > old one) to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > be recognized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DVD/CD still works, I can run off boot discs
> > > or LiveCDs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sean KB3IMT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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