[K3PZN-List] Who is the resident computer expert of the club ??

Michael Henyon mhenyon at comcast.net
Tue Jan 5 23:01:01 EST 2010 

Anthony-
You might want to pull the cmos battery (or short the bios pins) to set the
bios back to defaults. It's a simple enough thing to try...
Mike
KB3JIY

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[mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Philip Karras
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:03 PM
To: comulada at verizon.net; Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Who is the resident computer expert of the club ??

Try the known good cable, - good idea.

"I'd say the drive has gone south but" - If neither HD works it is highly
unlikely that both died at the same time, and one while it was not even
being used!

pk


--- On Tue, 1/5/10, Anthony Comulada <comulada at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Anthony Comulada <comulada at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Who is the resident computer expert of the club
??
> To: "Carroll County Amateur Radio Club" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:44 PM
>  Try a different IDE/sata cable (ie
> the one from the other IDE/sata
> channel that still working). Try to put the drive(s) in the
> second
> IDE/sata channel and see if the 2nd channel recognizes a
> drive is in
> there. The other step you should probably take is to verify
> the drives
> on a known working systemboard. Or you could take the
> drives to a
> friends house and try it out on their computer... I have an
> external USB
> enclosure that comes in handy for that kind of stuff. 
> 
> With out looking at it, I'd say the drive has gone south
> but, the IDE
> could be bad or both...it's not uncommon for drives to
> expire early in
> life... It's got to be one or the other.
> 
> Anthony, KB3RJH
> 
> On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 19:40 -0500, Sean Shaffer wrote:
> > I'll have to check the bios again.
> > 
> > The first time I checked it did not detect the IDE
> drive (listed as none)
> > 
> > But I forgot to look at the boot order (since it
> didn't list an IDE at all).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The USB drive is not connected.
> > 
> > I removed all peripherials but monitor, keyboard and
> mouse
> > (mouse is usb though if that matters)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > In answer to Phil, after the 500GB drive was not
> detected I tried the
> > 
> > original 30GB with the same result.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > And Steve's email reminded me that I hadn't checked
> the boot order 
> > 
> > (but the BIOS does not detect either drive now?)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > This bios, I don't think, won't let me turn off the
> PXE boot I can only
> > 
> >  place it in the last order position. Unless
> there a keystroke not listed
> > 
> >  that lets me disable.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I currently have the original 30GB drive in it I'll
> check bios options and
> > 
> >  boot order again.
> > 
> >  
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 19:05:27 -0500
> > > From: wo3l at comcast.net
> > > To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Who is the resident
> computer expert of the club ??
> > > 
> > > 1st thing is to pull the drive you installed
> today and make sure it 
> > > still boots off the internal disk.
> > > 
> > > The USB disk should be hotplug unless something
> very strange is going 
> > > on, so with the system booted connect that device
> and make sure the OS 
> > > sees it and things are OK.
> > > 
> > > To work out the boot issues check the BIOS boot
> order and see if it 
> > > added the new USB device to the top causing the
> SATA or IDE drive to 
> > > fall off the bottom of the list.
> > > 
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/5/2010 18:43, Sean Shaffer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I may have done something stupid but can't
> quite tell.
> > > >
> > > > I may need another pair of eyes on
> something.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I installed a 500GB hard drive into an old
> PC
> > > >
> > > > (not quite that old, 2003-ish maybe).
> > > >
> > > > All was well, I copied my data to it and
> only had to
> > > >
> > > > fix the bootloader.
> > > >
> > > > For a week it worked without issues.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Today I had everything turned off, plugged
> it all into
> > > >
> > > > a new surge protector, plugged in a second
> usb
> > > >
> > > > external drive and turned it all back on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On reboot all I get is the PXE net boot
> option and a
> > > >
> > > > message that no boot device is found and I
> should
> > > >
> > > > the cables.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I tried 3 IDE cables and 2 power cables, I
> cannot get
> > > >
> > > > the IDE drives (either the new one or the
> old one) to
> > > >
> > > > be recognized.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DVD/CD still works, I can run off boot discs
> or LiveCDs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sean KB3IMT
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >
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