[K3PZN-List] Field Day Proposal - QRP part

Wed Feb 27 12:50:03 EST 2008

Rob

we run QRP because we can do a full contest using 1-2
medium sized gel cells .... station set-up and tear
down can be minutes instead of hours!  (sounds like
more fun to me !)  

where QRP isn't good -- getting non-CW operators in
the act.  here we really need the extra dB's.  while i
enjoyed running stations on 20m SSB QRP with our nice
beam, it is 'dreadful' using a modest antenna and low
sunspots.  

we could certainly use your skills in deploying our
antenna farm and minimizing interference. 
(ex-resident Jim K4CGY would also gladly give us
advice from his 100w FD's)

73, curt

--- "Heath, Rob" <Rob.Heath at ssa.gov> wrote:

> This shouldn't be a problem PERIOD.  Having spent
> one of my Field Days
> with W3AO, I have seen separate SSB/CW/Digital
> stations (plus GOTA) on
> every band running high power with high-gain beams
> for 24 hours straight
> without significant interference.  It really is
> possible!  To me the
> solution is in better planning and setup rather than
> just turning down
> the power level.  If we want to run QRP as a
> strategic tactic to get the
> extra multiplier, then I can accept that.  However,
> running QPR because
> the station captains don't have the knowledge or
> don't want to be
> bothered to take the time to do the proper planning
> discourages me from
> wanting to participate.  Please don't take my
> comments the wrong way.  I
> am just passionate about Field Day and quit anal
> about trying to make
> the best effort possible.  As most members seem to
> be interested in just
> showing up, plugging in a few stations and having
> fun the serious
> PVRC-style operation is probably not going to
> happen.  However, I just
> can't accept that the only solution to interference
> is to turn down the
> power.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of
> wo3l at comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:09 AM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club; Carroll
> County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: RE: [K3PZN-List] Field Day Proposal
> 
> Just to clarify, 
> 
>           "Last year I had a lot of problems with
> the CW station on the
> same band" 
> 
> this should not be a problem under my proposal, I am
> proposing that we
> limit ourselves to 1 transmitter per band
> (regardless of mode) at a
> time. This is not a rules requirement but a
> logistical one targeted
> directly at the interference issue.
> 
> Fun is definitly why I went with a class F proposal
> and fewer
> transmitters. I hope that we have 3 antennas in
> place and only need to
> setup 2 additional, run some coax across the parking
> lot into the
> classroom areas, and re-arrange tables, chairs, and
> move a few rigs in
> to the classroom to make this happen.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'd like to
> hear more.
> Andy
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: John Hart <john_k3kwo at hotmail.com> 
> 
> > 
> > To all, 
> > 
> > I understand the problem with operating SSB-QRP in
> a contest
> environment such as 
> > Field Day, especially while trying to compete with
> the BIG GUN FD
> Stations. 
> > Digital modes don't need quite as much power to
> get the information
> accross as 
> > SSB but I would like to have a little more than
> QRP such as 50-60
> watts. Last 
> > year I had a lot of problems with the CW station
> on the same band with
> the 
> > Digital mode as we seem to both be in the same end
> of the band at the
> same time 
> > and it does tear up the recieved digital copy.
> This could be improved
> if the 
> > stations (or antennas) were widely separated with
> in the allowed 1000
> foot 
> > operating area. 
> > 
> > Field Day could be alot more fun if we would try
> less to win and enjoy
> ourselves 
> > more reguardless what the final score is. We also
> need more operators
> to man 
> > the stations so that when the sun comes up on
> Sunday morning most of
> us don't 
> > seem like zombies due to a total lack of sleep. 
> > 
> > Just a few thoughts, 
> > 
> > John, K3KWO 
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:33:51 -0500> From:
> wo3l at comcast.net> To: 
> > k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> Subject: [K3PZN-List]
> Field Day Proposal>
> > At the 
> > last meeting I offered to put together a plan for
> field day based > on
> an 
> > operation from the FTC. The following proposal is
> a hybrid that I >
> hope 
> > captures some of the features of both A and F
> operations.> >
> Background - Over 
> > the past few years the club has operated QRP class
> F > from the FTC.
> Before that 
> > operations were class A from various locations >
> around the county.
> The main 
> > input that I have seen for this year's field > day
> is a desire by some
> members 
> > to have full power (100W) for better SSB >
> operation. Others have
> expressed a 
> > desire to operate from a portable > location,
> while still others
> prefer a fixed 
> > structure with air > conditioning and restrooms.>
> > Proposal - we use
> the FTC 
> > site while setting up a few additional > antennas
> to support the
> number of 
> > stations in operation. Since we would > be using
> the FTC and some of
> the fixed 
> > station assets we would be a > class F entry (even
> though some of the
> stations 
> > would likely qualify as A).> > Details - 3 main
> stations, one each
> SSB, CW, and 
> > Digital. Since we are > at least 2 stations that
> gives us the bonus
> GOTA, VHF, 
> > and bonus points. > To minimize interference we
> would operate only 1
> station on 
> > any given > band (10,15,20,40,80,160) at any time.
> This will require 4
> (minimum) 
> > HF > antennas. I'm told that the station currently
> has a beam and a
> windom > 
> > that are working well. This operation will require
> at least 2 more >
> antennas be 
> > set up on Friday/Saturday morning. The station
> layout would > use our
> meeting 
> > room, and club station rooms to split up the
> stations a > bit. The
> band pass 
> > filters and some judicious spacing of the antennas
> > should minimize
> the 
> > interference between stations.> > Andy> 
> >
>
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