[K3CAL] In response to the open letter to the board nastiness going on
David Weaver
W3PQS at comcast.net
Sat Mar 5 10:05:27 EST 2016
It seems to me your way of management is inconsistent and the way you
understand the rules and regulations are inconsistent. To get back to the
original problem you can't change what was already voted on by the previous
members that's all I was trying to say we need to move forward get that done
then look into the future. And you're right I do want to be on the repeater
committee and I do want to be the chairman of the committee. I put over five
years and trying to set up the system before you yank me out and tried to
put your wife in the committee. I didn't agree so I became the bad guy it
seems like anybody who disagrees with your family we become bad guys. You
have insulted people and you don't even see it you have hurt people's
feelings and you don't see it what kind of manager are you? And your helper
is not much better he thinks he knows everything. You mentioned you try to
follow Roberts rules of order I don't see how you can do that when you can't
follow our bylaws by stopping work on a system that was approved by the
members. I think we're giving you too much power.( You can't do that). You
say I get my information second and third hand well I'm getting it from the
same people you're getting feedback from .So maybe you need to think about
how you present your information.
I agree with Bob I think it's time for you and Eric to move on. The only
reason you have an audience is because of Bob and myself working very hard
with the members. That's something you haven't grasped yet how to work with
people. If you can't see the rift and mended then it is time for you to move
on you need to be the bigger man you are in charge try apologizing to the
people you offended and to all the members for the path you have taken this
association down.
Dave Weaver show
W3PQS
PS if you don't like what I said in this email the truth hurts.
From: K3CAL [mailto:k3cal-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob N3PPH
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:22 AM
To: Calvert Amateur Radio Association - K3CAL
Subject: Re: [K3CAL] In response to the open letter to the board nastiness
going on
Well I was taking about your VP to be the bigger story teller but I see you
can hold your own. I stepped down as president due to my failing health, no
other reason. My plans for this year were to help the new president as much
as I could, knowing that my time would be limited. Instead imagine my
surprise when I was all of a sudden attacked by you. The first board meeting
( the secret one in January) you decided to throw your vile at me if front
of the other board members and seemed shocked I would actually defend
myself. Since that meeting you have circumvented me with total disregard for
the By-Laws, now you want to change them to fit you.
Yes I have the radio and HT that were sent by Yaesu when I entered us in the
beta program, I have not denied that. If the club wants them I will return
them, you are not the club. It has nothing to do with courage, you scare me
about as much as a flea on my dog's ass.
Thank you for pointing out that the two past presidents are the ones
complaining, we put lots of time and money into building this club up, we
don't like two snot nosed punks trying to destroy that. I am passionate
about CARA and know that showing up to a meeting will start a screaming
match with you and your sidekick, I do not care to put myself back in the
hospital.
I think you should step down and maybe learn a little about ham radio before
you try this again. I am not sure why you as a 3 year licensee think you are
qualified to make technical radio decisions, you barely even know how to
talk on one. You also may want to not spit on someones hand when they extend
it in friendship and help in the future.
Bob N3PPH
The last president that actually puts CARA first in priorities
On 3/4/2016 7:47 PM, Edwin A Noell Jr wrote:
To all members of CARA;
A lot of misinformation and deliberate disinformation is being passed around
about Eric and me. I want to set the record straight right now.
Nothing I've done or said is in any way an attempt to harm the club or its
members. I've also given everyone ample opportunity to ask questions and
discuss what I say or do at any time. My email and phone number are both
published in the members list and has been as long as I've been a member.
Instead, the general membership has taken it as a given that my intent is to
do harm. Nothing could be further from the truth. However, instead of
approaching me directly, coming to meetings and speaking up, or even just
sending a personal email with your concerns, it's been common practice to
denigrate me in email that is sent to the entire membership. These attacks
have also been carried out over the repeaters.
I've been accused of being an egomaniac and wanting to line my pockets with
CARA funds and I suppose, equipment. I was accused of this by Bob Sheskin,
who apparently has taken club radios and used them as his own for the last
two years. And I'm going to go on record right now that I've reached out to
Bob, but have received nothing but vile and nasty responses. I believe that
Bob is being malicious about what he's telling everyone and doesn't have the
courage to come to a meeting and face me in person, with witnesses, and
state his accusations. He is a sniping e-mail bully.
Dave Weaver has gotten information from other members, always second or
third hand. Dave is either misinterpreting the information he's getting or
simply not listening to what he's being told. He then takes this information
and deliberately tries to foment divisiveness among the membership. If you
actually read his drivel, his whole intent is to be named as the repeater
committee chairman and have only those that he wants on the repeater
committee. His idea of getting new people involved in the repeater work is
to tell everyone that they can come by whenever the committee is working to
"say hi". And that's a direct quote from one of his e-mails.
You may want to note that the uproars that are occurring now and those that
have happened in the past have a common denominator -- Bob Sheskin and Dave
Weaver.
We made good progress at last night's meeting. We discussed proposed changes
to the by-laws that everyone present seemed to like. These changes involve
reducing the number of business meetings and bringing in more fun through
presentations and demonstrations. These two things are more in keeping with
the hobby that we love than are the business meetings. Although the business
meetings are necessary, we did not get into this hobby to sit and slog our
way through administrative duties.
I am trying to move in the direction where we can enjoy the hobby more, in
an environment of camaraderie and friendship. I have been president of CARA
only since January 1st. I am asking all of you to give me the opportunity to
bring new ideas and new faces into the club. This will not happen if the
same people choose the positions they like and stay there indefinitely at
the expense of the entire membership.
There is a flaw in the by-laws concerning the selection of the repeater
committee chairman. That's why I suggested at the February meeting a work
group or committee be formed to examine the by-laws as a whole in order to
find ambiguities and unclear language, then correct them. I would have asked
for volunteers to do just that at last night's meeting, but it was sidelined
by Jim and Shawn's proposal for a change. I thought it best to give them a
chance to have their proposal heard rather than distract everyone with a new
committee.
My intent now is to have the repeater committee be governed by Robert's
Rules of Order, in which it states that a committee chairman is chosen by
the committee. I had asked Eric to be chairman because I wanted a
comprehensive communications plan for the county that included all of the
"pie in the sky" things anyone in the club could imagine, and I knew that he
could produce such a plan. I would be quite happy if the committee chose
it's own chairman from the members that, according to the by-laws, I
selected.
My final statement is this: If you don't come to meetings, if you don't
speak up and make yourself heard, if you don't ask questions when you don't
like something you hear, if you just sit on the sidelines like a coward and
take pot shots at me, Eric or the rest of the board, you are doing yourself
an injustice and you deserve what you get.
If you don't like what I said in this e-mail, well, truth hurts. If you
really don't like it, impeach me. But if you want to talk, I'm here. And if
you want more divisiveness and turmoil in the club, listen to the Bob and
Dave show. They're on every morning, afternoon and night, 146,985 or
444.950.
Ed
KC3EN
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