[K3CAL] Open letter to the board

Fri Mar 4 16:42:30 EST 2016

I dont see any body diging anythig up. What I do see is YOU ERIC STIRING IT
UP. YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN. NOT ME AB3LE

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Charlie Lumadue <fishkeeper1109 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> ERIC  CAN YOU SAY BACK ON THE TREE.    I CAN  AND I DONT GIVE A FLYING
> S--T IF YOU LIKE IT. AB3LE  ALL BANDS ALL MODES ALL THE TIME  I put this
> station together all by my self FOR FUN AND TO HELP . IM NOT HERE FOR SOME
> JERK. TO PUSH  AROUND
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 3:54 PM, David Weaver <W3PQS at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello Eric
>>
>> like to thank you for answering my email this is the first one did you
>> have answered usually you just don't pay attention or email back anybody.
>> That's not an allegation it's a fact don't answer it'll go away.
>>
>> I don't think this is how we want our board to act every member is just
>> as important as the individual.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* K3CAL [mailto:k3cal-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Charlie
>> Lumadue
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 2:54 PM
>> *To:* Calvert Amateur Radio Association - K3CAL
>> *Subject:* Re: [K3CAL] Open letter to the board
>>
>>
>>
>> ERIC  YOU HAVE  F---ED UP THE CLUB  WE HAD THE BEST REPEATER REMEMBER
>>  ECHO LINK SURE WAS FUN. GUESS WHAT YOU F----ED THAT UP TO. YOU HAD NO
>> RIGHT  TAKING ME OFF THE TREE!!!! SO PUT ME BACK ON THE TREE OR WISH YOU
>> HAD. THIS GI JOE BULLCRAP HAS GOT TO GO.  AB3LE  ALL BANDS ALL MODES ALL
>> THE TIME GRID DONT NEED NO STINKIN GRID.  YOU HAVE NO RIGHT AND YOU DONT
>> HAVE THE SUPPORT YOU THINK YOU HAVE.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Eric Christensen <
>> eric at christensenplace.us> wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to engage in back and forth negativity, but I will take
>> this opportunity to clear up a few inaccuracies.
>>
>> On 03/04/2016 12:57 PM, David Weaver wrote:
>> > Hello all Cara members and Board members.
>>
>> > It was brought to my attention that the installation of new equipment
>> > for the repeater for Prince Frederick project was to be halted at March
>> > Meeting until a new written plan was in place. As per the new president
>> > Ed Noell.
>>
>> No, this is neither what happened nor what was intended to happen.  We
>> were specifically talking about *future* projects and trying to actually
>> create a plan going forward for what we want to do 1, 3, and 5 years out
>> as well as completing the Prince Frederick Project.  Work is continuing
>> on the Prince Frederick Project (see below).
>>
>> So you are saying that the people I talked to on the radio this morning
>> are lying.
>>
>> Or you were talking during a meeting like you usually do and not paying
>> attention.
>>
>> I talked to Dave W3TOJ, Shawn N3AE and Jim K3UGA.
>>
>> Maybe Ron have it in his minutes?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Instead I was told to return
>> > everything and stop work. I still would like to complete this project as
>> > I think it would benefit all of Calvert County and its amateur radio
>> > operators North and South. I do need the support of the board and
>> > Calvert amateur radio Association members. That means I would be put
>> > back on repeater committee as the chairman so that I can get the support
>> > of the right people at the right time to get this equipment that we have
>> > donator our money to operational in a timely manner.
>>
>> You originally said you wanted the support from 100% of the members and
>> that just isn't going to happen.  Honestly, I'm having to go back and
>> figure out what has been done to both repeaters because you just started
>> doing stuff instead of bringing ideas to the membership and properly
>> documenting the project.  I don't want to do this haphazardly and going
>> forward I want to be methodical and make educated choices.  I also want
>> to document everything so we have a solid baseline to work from if we do
>> implement improvements or need to troubleshoot a problem.
>>
>> If you were listening at any of the meetings you attended when Bob was
>> president and you are VP.
>>
>> *Everything was documented and brought to the members and voted on before
>> It took place. Eric I hate to tell you this but it's not rocket science.*
>>
>> I'm sorry you don't understand repeaters and have to go back and try to
>> document and understand how it works.
>>
>> It's all you and Ed had to do was ASK. But no you're too smart for that.
>> You had an agenda when you came in and you still have it. So I guess Bob
>> and the previous board members did not have enough education to understand
>> this. Is that what you're saying? I'll put my credentials up front I was a
>> first responder at Ground Zero and I provided communications. Not a North
>> Carolina hurricane.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Some of you may not know that we have frequencies allocated by T Mark
>> > for our link system. If we do not use these frequencies by putting them
>> > on the air by April we will lose them they go back to T Mark to be
>> > reassigned.
>>
>> Yes, you brought this to my attention last week and I acknowledged it.
>> I suspect we wouldn't lose the frequencies from T-MARC since linking
>> frequencies aren't in high demand and I also think that we'd be able to
>> get an extension (much like we did for the 444.950 repeater pair) or get
>> a new assignment later if we can't get an extension
>>
>> Yes you can get an extension but why? You have the talent in this club to
>> get it working.
>>
>> Obviously it's over your head but I can help you. (It's a team effort.)
>>
>> .
>>
>> > If you are interested in getting this equipment running and working you
>> > must let the new president know.
>>
>> The new President knows, the Board knows, the whole club knows.  I'm not
>> sure why you make it sound like the President, myself, or anyone else on
>> the Board is deaf to what the membership wants.  The meeting last night,
>> which was very well attended, had lots of discussion about what the
>> membership wants and I am pressing forward with that.
>>
>> Well if you and the board would get on repeater once in a while you could
>> hear it
>>
>> and not just listen but talk to the members. This is no secret.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I hear a lot of you complaining that you don't understand what's going
>> > on you must stand up and say something.
>>
>> From whom?  I sincerely wish to know since I have not been hearing these
>> complaints and I would like to address any issues that members .
>>
>> Well they have been complaining to you. You just make on fun of them
>> looked the other way.
>>
>> Charlie's off the calling tree because he doesn't meet your ideal ham
>> radio operator.
>>
>> He's always been welcome in this club and an ARES until now.
>>
>> > Hopefully we can get this Association back together working as a team
>> > right now there is no team too many people are being left out.
>>
>> The only people I'm aware of that have been "left out" have taken it
>> upon themselves to not participate.  From what I've seen our Board and
>> regular meeting have been well attended and people have been open to
>> discussing ideas.
>>
>> This is a 501© three organization is to be run like a business. By the
>> Constitution of bylaws
>>
>> just because someone said something to you is no reason to take them off
>> your list.
>>
>> It's a volunteer organization. It is not your organization
>>
>> One minute you say you can't have someone you can't trust and the next
>> minute you say the person took themselves off.
>>
>> Which one is correct. I know for fact that Bob did not take himself off
>> the email list and Ares list.
>>
>>
>>
>> > *Some
>> > people can not join Ares* because they're not liked and are a little
>> > different when   they get on radio. Others were just taken off because
>> > leadership did not like them.
>>
>> The proper attitude is what it takes to be a successful member of ARES.
>> I cannot, and will not, have members who think it's okay to threaten
>> physical violence on my team. If I can't trust someone to keep a cool
>> and level head about themselves then they are of no use to me. It has
>> nothing to do with being liked or being different
>>
>> Can you please show me a code of conduct for Ares or is this *Eric's
>> code of conduct*.
>>
>> Friend you can only get pushed so far before you get pushed back.
>>
>> I apologize to Monica and to Ed I'm sorry that's not good enough for you
>> and Ed and Monica. As we all know you all do not make mistakes.
>>
>> You wouldn't have this Association if it wasn't for Bob, Jim, Dick, John
>> and myself.
>>
>> But the last time I brought that up all I got back was why should I care.
>>
>>
>> > And others are being excluded because they
>> > were attacked and the board is still not following the bylaws by keeping
>> > that person on the board emails list.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean.  AFAIK, Bob has control of the
>> board at k3cal.org email redirector so if he's taken someone off that list
>> I'm not aware of it.
>>
>> I guess that's why you're sending emails back and forth without Bob
>> knowing about them.
>>
>> And making phone conference calls to the board to have meetings and Bob
>> does not have a login.
>>
>> Can you explain that. Or I guess we should not be concerned because
>> you're so trustworthy.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Let's get this club under control
>> > and bring it together as a team I know we all can work together. I think
>> > the new administration has great ideas. They just need to learn how to
>> > implement them with the Association support which I don't hear or see
>> > right now.
>>
>> And from what I've seen participation is up, attendance is up, we've
>> gotten input from the membership regarding changes to the bylaws that
>> the Board has given the thumbs up on and the attendees at last night's
>> meeting seemed to support.  There are plans for speakers, show-and-tell,
>> radio build projects, and more coming up and I'm listening for more
>> suggestions.  I think I've received enough ideas to cover the rest of
>> this year and half of the next!
>>
>> So, looking positively towards the future, I think we're moving in the
>> correct direction based upon the reactions of the members at last
>> night's meeting and from other interactions I've had.  Honestly, the
>> best part of last night's meeting was the discussions we had where
>> everyone (at least appeared) to be comfortable asking questions or
>> providing input.
>>
>> I'll be asking for input on a couple of plans very soon (I'd be doing
>> that now but...) so I hope you and all the other members will provide
>> feedback so we can progress in a positive manner.  Gross negativity only
>> tears us apart as a community and there's been too much of that as of
>> late.
>>
>> In closing, I invite all members to help grow our community in a
>> positive manner instead of stooping to trying to dig up malice where
>> none exists.
>>
>> I would like to know why you think you're moving in the right direction
>> you are not the president.
>>
>> You were there as a support role read your duties. But I'm sure Ed
>> support you 100% ha ha.
>>
>> By this time in the year you should be sending out letters and membership
>> applications to grow this Association.
>>
>> But instead you're patting yourself on the back how good you are.
>>
>> Remember friend the first person you talk to on this repeater was me and
>> Bob.
>>
>> If you don't think you can reconcile that that may be you're not going to
>> write direction.
>>
>> But I'm sure you can't see that just think on it
>>
>> God bless you. You needed.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> W3PQS
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric WG3K
>> CARA Vice President
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