[K3CAL] Open letter to the board

Fri Mar 4 16:30:45 EST 2016

ERIC  CAN YOU SAY BACK ON THE TREE.    I CAN  AND I DONT GIVE A FLYING S--T
IF YOU LIKE IT. AB3LE  ALL BANDS ALL MODES ALL THE TIME  I put this station
together all by my self FOR FUN AND TO HELP . IM NOT HERE FOR SOME JERK. TO
PUSH  AROUND

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 3:54 PM, David Weaver <W3PQS at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello Eric
>
> like to thank you for answering my email this is the first one did you
> have answered usually you just don't pay attention or email back anybody.
> That's not an allegation it's a fact don't answer it'll go away.
>
> I don't think this is how we want our board to act every member is just as
> important as the individual.
>
>
>
> *From:* K3CAL [mailto:k3cal-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Charlie
> Lumadue
> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 2:54 PM
> *To:* Calvert Amateur Radio Association - K3CAL
> *Subject:* Re: [K3CAL] Open letter to the board
>
>
>
> ERIC  YOU HAVE  F---ED UP THE CLUB  WE HAD THE BEST REPEATER REMEMBER
>  ECHO LINK SURE WAS FUN. GUESS WHAT YOU F----ED THAT UP TO. YOU HAD NO
> RIGHT  TAKING ME OFF THE TREE!!!! SO PUT ME BACK ON THE TREE OR WISH YOU
> HAD. THIS GI JOE BULLCRAP HAS GOT TO GO.  AB3LE  ALL BANDS ALL MODES ALL
> THE TIME GRID DONT NEED NO STINKIN GRID.  YOU HAVE NO RIGHT AND YOU DONT
> HAVE THE SUPPORT YOU THINK YOU HAVE.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Eric Christensen <eric at christensenplace.us>
> wrote:
>
> I don't want to engage in back and forth negativity, but I will take
> this opportunity to clear up a few inaccuracies.
>
> On 03/04/2016 12:57 PM, David Weaver wrote:
> > Hello all Cara members and Board members.
>
> > It was brought to my attention that the installation of new equipment
> > for the repeater for Prince Frederick project was to be halted at March
> > Meeting until a new written plan was in place. As per the new president
> > Ed Noell.
>
> No, this is neither what happened nor what was intended to happen.  We
> were specifically talking about *future* projects and trying to actually
> create a plan going forward for what we want to do 1, 3, and 5 years out
> as well as completing the Prince Frederick Project.  Work is continuing
> on the Prince Frederick Project (see below).
>
> So you are saying that the people I talked to on the radio this morning
> are lying.
>
> Or you were talking during a meeting like you usually do and not paying
> attention.
>
> I talked to Dave W3TOJ, Shawn N3AE and Jim K3UGA.
>
> Maybe Ron have it in his minutes?
>
>
>
>
>
> > Instead I was told to return
> > everything and stop work. I still would like to complete this project as
> > I think it would benefit all of Calvert County and its amateur radio
> > operators North and South. I do need the support of the board and
> > Calvert amateur radio Association members. That means I would be put
> > back on repeater committee as the chairman so that I can get the support
> > of the right people at the right time to get this equipment that we have
> > donator our money to operational in a timely manner.
>
> You originally said you wanted the support from 100% of the members and
> that just isn't going to happen.  Honestly, I'm having to go back and
> figure out what has been done to both repeaters because you just started
> doing stuff instead of bringing ideas to the membership and properly
> documenting the project.  I don't want to do this haphazardly and going
> forward I want to be methodical and make educated choices.  I also want
> to document everything so we have a solid baseline to work from if we do
> implement improvements or need to troubleshoot a problem.
>
> If you were listening at any of the meetings you attended when Bob was
> president and you are VP.
>
> *Everything was documented and brought to the members and voted on before
> It took place. Eric I hate to tell you this but it's not rocket science.*
>
> I'm sorry you don't understand repeaters and have to go back and try to
> document and understand how it works.
>
> It's all you and Ed had to do was ASK. But no you're too smart for that.
> You had an agenda when you came in and you still have it. So I guess Bob
> and the previous board members did not have enough education to understand
> this. Is that what you're saying? I'll put my credentials up front I was a
> first responder at Ground Zero and I provided communications. Not a North
> Carolina hurricane.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Some of you may not know that we have frequencies allocated by T Mark
> > for our link system. If we do not use these frequencies by putting them
> > on the air by April we will lose them they go back to T Mark to be
> > reassigned.
>
> Yes, you brought this to my attention last week and I acknowledged it.
> I suspect we wouldn't lose the frequencies from T-MARC since linking
> frequencies aren't in high demand and I also think that we'd be able to
> get an extension (much like we did for the 444.950 repeater pair) or get
> a new assignment later if we can't get an extension
>
> Yes you can get an extension but why? You have the talent in this club to
> get it working.
>
> Obviously it's over your head but I can help you. (It's a team effort.)
>
> .
>
> > If you are interested in getting this equipment running and working you
> > must let the new president know.
>
> The new President knows, the Board knows, the whole club knows.  I'm not
> sure why you make it sound like the President, myself, or anyone else on
> the Board is deaf to what the membership wants.  The meeting last night,
> which was very well attended, had lots of discussion about what the
> membership wants and I am pressing forward with that.
>
> Well if you and the board would get on repeater once in a while you could
> hear it
>
> and not just listen but talk to the members. This is no secret.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I hear a lot of you complaining that you don't understand what's going
> > on you must stand up and say something.
>
> From whom?  I sincerely wish to know since I have not been hearing these
> complaints and I would like to address any issues that members .
>
> Well they have been complaining to you. You just make on fun of them
> looked the other way.
>
> Charlie's off the calling tree because he doesn't meet your ideal ham
> radio operator.
>
> He's always been welcome in this club and an ARES until now.
>
> > Hopefully we can get this Association back together working as a team
> > right now there is no team too many people are being left out.
>
> The only people I'm aware of that have been "left out" have taken it
> upon themselves to not participate.  From what I've seen our Board and
> regular meeting have been well attended and people have been open to
> discussing ideas.
>
> This is a 501© three organization is to be run like a business. By the
> Constitution of bylaws
>
> just because someone said something to you is no reason to take them off
> your list.
>
> It's a volunteer organization. It is not your organization
>
> One minute you say you can't have someone you can't trust and the next
> minute you say the person took themselves off.
>
> Which one is correct. I know for fact that Bob did not take himself off
> the email list and Ares list.
>
>
>
> > *Some
> > people can not join Ares* because they're not liked and are a little
> > different when   they get on radio. Others were just taken off because
> > leadership did not like them.
>
> The proper attitude is what it takes to be a successful member of ARES.
> I cannot, and will not, have members who think it's okay to threaten
> physical violence on my team. If I can't trust someone to keep a cool
> and level head about themselves then they are of no use to me. It has
> nothing to do with being liked or being different
>
> Can you please show me a code of conduct for Ares or is this *Eric's code
> of conduct*.
>
> Friend you can only get pushed so far before you get pushed back.
>
> I apologize to Monica and to Ed I'm sorry that's not good enough for you
> and Ed and Monica. As we all know you all do not make mistakes.
>
> You wouldn't have this Association if it wasn't for Bob, Jim, Dick, John
> and myself.
>
> But the last time I brought that up all I got back was why should I care.
>
>
> > And others are being excluded because they
> > were attacked and the board is still not following the bylaws by keeping
> > that person on the board emails list.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.  AFAIK, Bob has control of the
> board at k3cal.org email redirector so if he's taken someone off that list
> I'm not aware of it.
>
> I guess that's why you're sending emails back and forth without Bob
> knowing about them.
>
> And making phone conference calls to the board to have meetings and Bob
> does not have a login.
>
> Can you explain that. Or I guess we should not be concerned because you're
> so trustworthy.
>
>
>
> > Let's get this club under control
> > and bring it together as a team I know we all can work together. I think
> > the new administration has great ideas. They just need to learn how to
> > implement them with the Association support which I don't hear or see
> > right now.
>
> And from what I've seen participation is up, attendance is up, we've
> gotten input from the membership regarding changes to the bylaws that
> the Board has given the thumbs up on and the attendees at last night's
> meeting seemed to support.  There are plans for speakers, show-and-tell,
> radio build projects, and more coming up and I'm listening for more
> suggestions.  I think I've received enough ideas to cover the rest of
> this year and half of the next!
>
> So, looking positively towards the future, I think we're moving in the
> correct direction based upon the reactions of the members at last
> night's meeting and from other interactions I've had.  Honestly, the
> best part of last night's meeting was the discussions we had where
> everyone (at least appeared) to be comfortable asking questions or
> providing input.
>
> I'll be asking for input on a couple of plans very soon (I'd be doing
> that now but...) so I hope you and all the other members will provide
> feedback so we can progress in a positive manner.  Gross negativity only
> tears us apart as a community and there's been too much of that as of late.
>
> In closing, I invite all members to help grow our community in a
> positive manner instead of stooping to trying to dig up malice where
> none exists.
>
> I would like to know why you think you're moving in the right direction
> you are not the president.
>
> You were there as a support role read your duties. But I'm sure Ed support
> you 100% ha ha.
>
> By this time in the year you should be sending out letters and membership
> applications to grow this Association.
>
> But instead you're patting yourself on the back how good you are.
>
> Remember friend the first person you talk to on this repeater was me and
> Bob.
>
> If you don't think you can reconcile that that may be you're not going to
> write direction.
>
> But I'm sure you can't see that just think on it
>
> God bless you. You needed.
>
> Dave
>
> W3PQS
>
>
>
> 73,
> Eric WG3K
> CARA Vice President
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